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Communists are so cute when they are small

#1 Post by Spock » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:38 pm

With the Project Veritas video of the Bernie staffer endorsing the Gulags dropping today we got a glimpse of a cute young commie.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... -gulag.php

He is so cute and adorable, he thinks he would be the one deciding who gets sent to the Gulags. rather than being sent there himself as purges continue.

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Re: Communists are so cute when they are small

#2 Post by Bob78164 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:13 am

Isn't O'Keefe the guy with a history of deceptively altering videos to change their meaning? --Bob
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Re: Communists are so cute when they are small

#3 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:12 am

Bob78164 wrote:
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Isn't O'Keefe the guy with a history of deceptively altering videos to change their meaning? --Bob
The possibilities of selective editing in that clip were considerable. You'll note you never hear a complete question and answer.

And I wonder what sort of gems we'd hear at the tailgate parties at a Trump rally.
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#4 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:40 am

Bob78164 wrote:
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Isn't O'Keefe the guy with a history of deceptively altering videos to change their meaning? --Bob
Bless your...
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#5 Post by kroxquo » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:58 am

I am very skeptical of the veracity of this video.

"In a 2018 book on propaganda and disinformation in U.S. politics, three Harvard University scholars refer to Project Veritas as a 'right-wing disinformation outfit'"

Full article:
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#6 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:16 am

If you can gather some evidence proving a deceptively edited video Project Veritas has a ongoing offer of a $10,000 reward
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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Re: Communists are so cute when they are small

#7 Post by Spock » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:20 am

I first read "Gulag Archipelago" about 20 years ago. I found Volume 1 to be a bit of a slog, but I found Volume 2 and Volume 3 to be transcendent. This last fall, I started re-reading it. Volume 1 was much better than I remember, which is probably due to being 53 instead of 33. A few other books jumped in front of it this winter, but I really plan on doing the rest this winter.

Be that as it may, I never dreamed that Gulags (among other things) would become a relevant topic of discussion in our current politics or that many of the supporters of a leading presidential candidate would view the "Gulag Archipelago" as a How-To manual.

I am kidding, of course, we all know that Bernie supporters have never read "Gulag Archipelago."

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#8 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:32 am

Spock wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:20 am
many of the supporters of a leading presidential candidate would view the "Gulag Archipelago" as a How-To manual.
As opposed to all of Trump's supporters, who are fair minded, non-racist believers in the Constitution.
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Re: Communists are so cute when they are small

#9 Post by Spock » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:39 am

Part 2 (I think) dropped-Anyway, it is different from what I saw earlier.

https://twitter.com/PVeritas_Action/sta ... 2524655623

Very direct praise of the Gulags in this segment.

Money Quote>>>>"There's a lot of me's in the Bernie Campaign."

Keep in mind I haven't even mentioned his threats against the police.

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#10 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:20 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:32 am
Spock wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:20 am
many of the supporters of a leading presidential candidate would view the "Gulag Archipelago" as a How-To manual.
As opposed to all of Trump's supporters, who are fair minded, non-racist believers in the Constitution.
You finally got it. Most of us are exactly that, SSS. And we totally disregard slander from haters like you. It just confirms our knowledge that people like you should never be given any power or votes.
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#11 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:35 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:20 am
It just confirms our knowledge that people like you should never be given any power or votes.
That confirms the Republican playbook. Deprive as many of the majority of citizens of their vote so that you can stay in power.
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#12 Post by Bob78164 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:07 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:20 am
It just confirms our knowledge that people like you should never be given any power or votes.
This, right here, is a declaration of war. Not just against those who disagree with your views. But also against our democracy. --Bob
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Re: Communists are so cute when they are small

#13 Post by Spock » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:36 pm

Another short one dropped

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/stat ... 3319596033

Money quote>>>"We don't want to F---ing have to, like eliminate people."

Bull crap-most of this video is about the people that would need to be eliminated.

Obviously, he is eagerly awaiting the day that he can "F___ing Eliminate People."

It is the' "Gulag Archipelago" come to life.

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#14 Post by Spock » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:05 pm

This is the full version of #1. 9 Minutes long.

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/stat ... 3673139200

Pull quote>>>"Liberals get the f___ing wall first."<<<

Just what I would expect. SSS and the Bob's get the wall or Gulags before I do. Gotta purge those that are ideologically impure.

They are pretty straightforward about their plans for you guys, but you will never admit it

Straight from the pages of Gulag Archipelago.

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#15 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:13 pm

Spock wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:36 pm
Bull crap-most of this video is about the people that would need to be eliminated.
You're getting a lot of mileage from some stuff said by one Bernie Sanders supporter at a time when he was probably under the influence of something and could well have been encouraged (since we don't have the questions and prompts).

My guess is that whatever position he has in the Sanders campaign, if any, won't last for very long.

On the other hand, in the Trump administration, expressing views like that get you promoted to senior positions:

https://www.ncjw.org/news/interfaith-op ... st-resign/
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#16 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:39 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:07 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:20 am
It just confirms our knowledge that people like you should never be given any power or votes.
This, right here, is a declaration of war. Not just against those who disagree with your views. But also against our democracy. --Bob
Really, bobby? You have been at war with anyone who questions your opinion for years. What's new? And it says right in my signature that I'm a clear and present danger to our democracy. Don't you pay any attention?
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#17 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:45 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:35 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:20 am
It just confirms our knowledge that people like you should never be given any power or votes.
That confirms the Republican playbook. Deprive as many of the majority of citizens of their vote so that you can stay in power.
Once again, you play from the the hate playbook without any comprehension. The operative word is not deprive, but educate. Nobody with any intelligence or common sense should vote for anyone from your party. It's just hard to get people aware and educated about the democrat's raging and constant hypocrisy, corruption and moral bankruptcy going against your ownership of colleges, universities, the msm and people like soros who fund your constant propaganda. The repubs are very poor at that. But trump, actually, is gaining some ground, and your impeachment bullshit is helping too.
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#18 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:53 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:45 pm
Nobody with any intelligence or common sense should vote for anyone from your party.
Educated Voters Breaking Hard Against GOP

Midterms Reveal That More Educated Americans Are Fleeing the Republican Party

Sometimes, it's just too easy to prove you wrong Flock.
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#19 Post by Bob78164 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:44 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:53 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:45 pm
Nobody with any intelligence or common sense should vote for anyone from your party.
Educated Voters Breaking Hard Against GOP

Midterms Reveal That More Educated Americans Are Fleeing the Republican Party

Sometimes, it's just too easy to prove you wrong Flock.
You can't possibly prove him wrong because of the way he's set this up. Anyone who votes Democratic by (flock's) definition lacks intelligence or common sense. Which is why he's okay with the concept of depriving people who disagree with him of their vote. --Bob
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#20 Post by Spock » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:26 pm

if anyone is interested, there is a recent 1-volume abridgement of Gulag Archipelago out that is probably more readable than my 3-volume version. I am sure that it eliminates much of the slog but it saves the good parts. Jordan Peterson wrote the forward.

https://www.amazon.com/Archipelago-Pete ... 184&sr=1-1

It shouldn't be just conservatives interested. Remember "Liberals get the F___ing Wall First."

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#21 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:49 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:44 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:53 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:45 pm
Nobody with any intelligence or common sense should vote for anyone from your party.
Educated Voters Breaking Hard Against GOP

Midterms Reveal That More Educated Americans Are Fleeing the Republican Party

Sometimes, it's just too easy to prove you wrong Flock.
You can't possibly prove him wrong because of the way he's set this up. Anyone who votes Democratic by (flock's) definition lacks intelligence or common sense. Which is why he's okay with the concept of depriving people who disagree with him of their vote. --Bob
No I don't. Why are you being obtuse?

Oh yeah. It's you.
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#22 Post by Beebs52 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:47 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:07 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:20 am
It just confirms our knowledge that people like you should never be given any power or votes.
This, right here, is a declaration of war. Not just against those who disagree with your views. But also against our democracy. --Bob
No.It's why people need to vote against you and yours. Not war gulag blahblahblah. You need to simmah down.
Well, then

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#23 Post by Bob78164 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:14 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:47 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:07 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:20 am
It just confirms our knowledge that people like you should never be given any power or votes.
This, right here, is a declaration of war. Not just against those who disagree with your views. But also against our democracy. --Bob
No.It's why people need to vote against you and yours. Not war gulag blahblahblah. You need to simmah down.
Not what he wrote. And I believe he truly meant what he wrote. Which is why he's just fine with the various voter-suppression tactics being deployed by Republicans all over the country, some aimed with "almost surgical precision" at voters of color. --Bob
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#24 Post by Beebs52 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:21 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:14 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:47 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:07 pm
This, right here, is a declaration of war. Not just against those who disagree with your views. But also against our democracy. --Bob
No.It's why people need to vote against you and yours. Not war gulag blahblahblah. You need to simmah down.
Not what he wrote. And I believe he truly meant what he wrote. Which is why he's just fine with the various voter-suppression tactics being deployed by Republicans all over the country, some aimed with "almost surgical precision" at voters of color. --Bob
Okie dokie.
Well, then

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Re: Communists are so cute when they are small

#25 Post by Spock » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:00 am

Considering the work ethic of the average Bernie Bro-this made me laff and laff.

I cracked open Gulag Archipelago V2 and found this pretty early.

"the bases of the work structure of the Soviet Republic as defined in the Constitution of July 10, 1918: He who does not work does not eat."

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