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Congrats to Justin Trudeau

#1 Post by a1mamacat » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:16 pm

and well done Canada to send a strong message to him, while maintaining our progressive views.
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#2 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:18 am

a1mamacat wrote:and well done Canada to send a strong message to him, while maintaining our progressive views.
He doesn't have a majority though. He's going to have to form a coalition.
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#3 Post by a1mamacat » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:41 am

Bob Juch wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:and well done Canada to send a strong message to him, while maintaining our progressive views.
He doesn't have a majority though. He's going to have to form a coalition.
Incorrect. The minority will have to tread lightly on many issues, but doesn't need a coalition. They will just not be able to ram through any changes without taking into consideration the views of the other parties. That was the message we sent.
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Re: Congrats to Justin Trudeau

#4 Post by Bob78164 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:29 pm

a1mamacat wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:and well done Canada to send a strong message to him, while maintaining our progressive views.
He doesn't have a majority though. He's going to have to form a coalition.
Incorrect. The minority will have to tread lightly on many issues, but doesn't need a coalition. They will just not be able to ram through any changes without taking into consideration the views of the other parties. That was the message we sent.
Would you mind elaborating? I will confess to a lack of knowledge about precisely how Canada's parliamentary system works, and I am curious. Can the other parties "gang up" and end the government via some sort of vote of no confidence? --Bob
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#5 Post by a1mamacat » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:38 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
Bob Juch wrote: He doesn't have a majority though. He's going to have to form a coalition.
Incorrect. The minority will have to tread lightly on many issues, but doesn't need a coalition. They will just not be able to ram through any changes without taking into consideration the views of the other parties. That was the message we sent.
Would you mind elaborating? I will confess to a lack of knowledge about precisely how Canada's parliamentary system works, and I am curious. Can the other parties "gang up" and end the government via some sort of vote of no confidence? --Bob
Yes, they could. The total number of seats is 338, and the Liberals won 157. So if two or more of the other parties voted as a block, they could force a non confidence motion. That would be unlikely for a couple of years, as two of the other parties visions align with the Liberals right now.
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#6 Post by Bob78164 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:56 pm

a1mamacat wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
Incorrect. The minority will have to tread lightly on many issues, but doesn't need a coalition. They will just not be able to ram through any changes without taking into consideration the views of the other parties. That was the message we sent.
Would you mind elaborating? I will confess to a lack of knowledge about precisely how Canada's parliamentary system works, and I am curious. Can the other parties "gang up" and end the government via some sort of vote of no confidence? --Bob
Yes, they could. The total number of seats is 338, and the Liberals won 157. So if two or more of the other parties voted as a block, they could force a non confidence motion. That would be unlikely for a couple of years, as two of the other parties visions align with the Liberals right now.
I guess I'm not understanding the difference between the state of affairs that you're describing and a coalition to form a government. Would you mind educating me? --Bob
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#7 Post by a1mamacat » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:26 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:Would you mind elaborating? I will confess to a lack of knowledge about precisely how Canada's parliamentary system works, and I am curious. Can the other parties "gang up" and end the government via some sort of vote of no confidence? --Bob
Yes, they could. The total number of seats is 338, and the Liberals won 157. So if two or more of the other parties voted as a block, they could force a non confidence motion. That would be unlikely for a couple of years, as two of the other parties visions align with the Liberals right now.
I guess I'm not understanding the difference between the state of affairs that you're describing and a coalition to form a government. Would you mind educating me? --Bob
In a coalition, the minority government would make an arrangement with one of the other parties holding a balance of power. This could include naming some of the third party members to cabinet posts, or committees. It is more formal than simply the third party and the minority agreeing to support each other in votes.
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#8 Post by Bob78164 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:28 pm

a1mamacat wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
Yes, they could. The total number of seats is 338, and the Liberals won 157. So if two or more of the other parties voted as a block, they could force a non confidence motion. That would be unlikely for a couple of years, as two of the other parties visions align with the Liberals right now.
I guess I'm not understanding the difference between the state of affairs that you're describing and a coalition to form a government. Would you mind educating me? --Bob
In a coalition, the minority government would make an arrangement with one of the other parties holding a balance of power. This could include naming some of the third party members to cabinet posts, or committees. It is more formal than simply the third party and the minority agreeing to support each other in votes.
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#9 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:32 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:I guess I'm not understanding the difference between the state of affairs that you're describing and a coalition to form a government. Would you mind educating me? --Bob
In a coalition, the minority government would make an arrangement with one of the other parties holding a balance of power. This could include naming some of the third party members to cabinet posts, or committees. It is more formal than simply the third party and the minority agreeing to support each other in votes.
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#10 Post by Bob78164 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:35 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
In a coalition, the minority government would make an arrangement with one of the other parties holding a balance of power. This could include naming some of the third party members to cabinet posts, or committees. It is more formal than simply the third party and the minority agreeing to support each other in votes.
Thanks. I learned something today. --Bob
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That I learned something? I thought it was polite to thank Saucy for taking the time to satisfy my curiosity by letting her know that her efforts made a difference.

About the government of Canada? Most Canadians, I would hope, and a fair number of people here as well. --Bob
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#11 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:40 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:Thanks. I learned something today. --Bob
Who actually cares?
That I learned something? I thought it was polite to thank Saucy for taking the time to satisfy my curiosity by letting her know that her efforts made a difference.

About the government of Canada? Most Canadians, I would hope, and a fair number of people here as well. --Bob
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#12 Post by a1mamacat » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:41 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
In a coalition, the minority government would make an arrangement with one of the other parties holding a balance of power. This could include naming some of the third party members to cabinet posts, or committees. It is more formal than simply the third party and the minority agreeing to support each other in votes.
Thanks. I learned something today. --Bob
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You dissin me or Bob?
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#13 Post by Bob78164 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:44 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
Who actually cares?
That I learned something? I thought it was polite to thank Saucy for taking the time to satisfy my curiosity by letting her know that her efforts made a difference.

About the government of Canada? Most Canadians, I would hope, and a fair number of people here as well. --Bob
Again blahblablah
No one is forcing you to read our exchange. --Bob
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a1mamacat wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:Thanks. I learned something today. --Bob
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You dissin me or Bob?
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#15 Post by a1mamacat » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:46 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
Who actually cares?
You dissin me or Bob?
Both
So who pee'd in your Corn Flakes today? I know you get all hoity toity with the Bobs, but I don't recall doing anything to set you off?
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#16 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:07 pm

a1mamacat wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
You dissin me or Bob?
Both
So who pee'd in your Corn Flakes today? I know you get all hoity toity with the Bobs, but I don't recall doing anything to set you off?
You're right. As I said who cares. Gotta watch Astros.
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#17 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:17 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
Both
So who pee'd in your Corn Flakes today? I know you get all hoity toity with the Bobs, but I don't recall doing anything to set you off?
You're right. As I said who cares. Gotta watch Astros.
Plus you do your own crud about the pres, conservatives, and whatever so, Deal.
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#18 Post by a1mamacat » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:22 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
So who pee'd in your Corn Flakes today? I know you get all hoity toity with the Bobs, but I don't recall doing anything to set you off?
You're right. As I said who cares. Gotta watch Astros.
Plus you do your own crud about the pres, conservatives, and whatever so, Deal.
Ahh, but I do it because I DO care. Now if you had gone after the Blackface/brownface sheit, we could have had some fun, or not because I think he should be smacked upside his head about it. All I was doing was explaining procedures that Bob asked about. Like me asking several years ago about how the electoral college works.
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#19 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:27 pm

a1mamacat wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote: You're right. As I said who cares. Gotta watch Astros.
Plus you do your own crud about the pres, conservatives, and whatever so, Deal.
Ahh, but I do it because I DO care. Now if you had gone after the Blackface/brownface sheit, we could have had some fun, or not because I think he should be smacked upside his head about it. All I was doing was explaining procedures that Bob asked about. Like me asking several years ago about how the electoral college works.
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#20 Post by a1mamacat » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:29 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
Beebs52 wrote: Plus you do your own crud about the pres, conservatives, and whatever so, Deal.
Ahh, but I do it because I DO care. Now if you had gone after the Blackface/brownface sheit, we could have had some fun, or not because I think he should be smacked upside his head about it. All I was doing was explaining procedures that Bob asked about. Like me asking several years ago about how the electoral college works.
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Well okay then, bless your heart anyway... :roll:
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#21 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:41 pm

I have to watch Astros. But here's the thing. Don't know anyone who did any sort of blackface in the day. And I'm 67. Regardless, maybe he was drunk. Who knows. No one normal did that, but, we all did shit in the day. Thank god for no phones.
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#22 Post by a1mamacat » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:34 pm

Beebs52 wrote:I have to watch Astros. But here's the thing. Don't know anyone who did any sort of blackface in the day. And I'm 67. Regardless, maybe he was drunk. Who knows. No one normal did that, but, we all did shit in the day. Thank god for no phones.
Amen Sister!

He was stupid and did stupid things. I know that I was on occasion, dressed in a fringed dress with pigtails, and facepaint, and am so glad that no photographic record remains. :oops:

I think he is on his last "mulligan" and any further revelations will see him ousted.
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#23 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:38 pm

a1mamacat wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:I have to watch Astros. But here's the thing. Don't know anyone who did any sort of blackface in the day. And I'm 67. Regardless, maybe he was drunk. Who knows. No one normal did that, but, we all did shit in the day. Thank god for no phones.
Amen Sister!

He was stupid and did stupid things. I know that I was on occasion, dressed in a fringed dress with pigtails, and facepaint, and am so glad that no photographic record remains. :oops:

I think he is on his last "mulligan" and any further revelations will see him ousted.
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#24 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:45 pm

a1mamacat wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
You dissin me or Bob?
Both
So who pee'd in your Corn Flakes today? I know you get all hoity toity with the Bobs, but I don't recall doing anything to set you off?
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#25 Post by tlynn78 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:02 am

Ya'll are just adorable.
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