TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
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TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
The TSA bag screeners at JFK missed seeing three "box cutters" in a passenger's bag. When he put his bag in the overhead compartment of a JetBlue flight they fell out. That caused them to removed all passengers from the plane and rescreen them.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/quee ... MP=OTC-rss
I call those "utility knives", not "box cutters".
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/quee ... MP=OTC-rss
I call those "utility knives", not "box cutters".
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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
I don't see pictures of what this person had. The picture in the article that you linked shows the tools used in the 9/11 hijackings.Bob Juch wrote:The TSA bag screeners at JFK missed seeing three "box cutters" in a passenger's bag. When he put his bag in the overhead compartment of a JetBlue flight they fell out. That caused them to removed all passengers from the plane and rescreen them.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/quee ... MP=OTC-rss
I call those "utility knives", not "box cutters".
I would calls those a leatherman on the left (yes, a brand name but I use it generically) and a stanley (also generic) or utilty knife on the right.
I know a lot of people that use "boxcutter" for stanley knives and this kind of knife, which is what I would reserve "boxcutter" for:
It is not clear to me which kind was found on this plane.
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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
I wonder if lb has a collection of these for work?
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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
ulysses5019 wrote:I wonder if lb has a collection of these for work?
I have a bunch of old Mecca box cutters, including one sitting on the desk here, which is my spare for when the button finally pops on my current one....
They only have a passing resemblance to what aj posted, but that's because ours are technically called safety cutters..... not that that's kept me from whacking my fingers and other body parts numerous times....
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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
There's something fishy about the guy's story. OK, he uses boxcutters at work. He "forgot" they were in his carry-on. If he used them at work, why would they be in his carry-on in the first place? I suppose he was going to work in the Dominican Republic?
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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
I suppose he didn't want to chance the airline losing his tool bag.Estonut wrote:There's something fishy about the guy's story. OK, he uses boxcutters at work. He "forgot" they were in his carry-on. If he used them at work, why would they be in his carry-on in the first place? I suppose he was going to work in the Dominican Republic?
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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
I don't think it was a tool bag. If so, why bring it along? How would the cutters get through amongst other tools? Are things like screwdrivers, hammers or cutting pliers allowed in carry-on?Bob Juch wrote:I suppose he didn't want to chance the airline losing his tool bag.Estonut wrote:There's something fishy about the guy's story. OK, he uses boxcutters at work. He "forgot" they were in his carry-on. If he used them at work, why would they be in his carry-on in the first place? I suppose he was going to work in the Dominican Republic?
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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
In a post 9/11 world, brandishing a box cutter on a airliner would be a good way to get yourself beaten to a pulp.
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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:In a post 9/11 world, brandishing a box cutter on a airliner would be a good way to get yourself beaten to a pulp.
Someone with many years of Mecca experience would never allow that to happen to themselves.
I'd hope all the onrushers have had their tetanus boosters....
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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
The only answer I can think of to answer that is the mass of metal (thickness in this case). They are relatively thin blades. But they should have been picked up. I would think that even single edged razor blades should be picked up on metal detectors at this point.Estonut wrote:Bob Juch wrote:Estonut wrote: How would the cutters get through amongst other tools? Are things like screwdrivers, hammers or cutting pliers allowed in carry-on?
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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
I travel with tools when I'm going to soccer games. I use them to make flags and to hang/cut down banners. I usually have a cordless drill and a couple of different kinds of cutters. I also haul that stuff back forth to home games using some of the same bags. I sort it out and put the tools into a checked bag when I fly but I have made a couple of mistakes before. I lost a pair of sidecutters at the Denver airport security station once because they got left in the wrong bag. Security found them in the scanner and then dug them out of a pocket in my backpack. Just pitched them in the trash since I had already checked my other bag.
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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
I doubt it was a tool bag. Most professional-type tools would have to be checked:
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/ ... items.shtm
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/ ... items.shtm
TSA guidelines wrote:Code: Select all
Tools: Item Carry-on Checked Axes and Hatchets No Yes Cattle Prods No Yes Crowbars No Yes Hammers No Yes Drills and drill bits (including cordless portable power drills) No Yes Saws (including cordless portable power saws) No Yes Tools (greater than seven inches in length) No Yes Tools (seven inches or less in length) Yes Yes Screwdrivers (seven inches or less in length) Yes Yes Wrenches and Pliers (seven inches or less in length) Yes Yes NOTE: Any sharp objects in checked baggage should be sheathed or securely wrapped to prevent injury to baggage handlers and Security Officers.
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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
Okay, the discussion doesn't directly mention a box cutter death match, but I think this is the closest we've got on the Bored for today's "Found It."littlebeast13 wrote:themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:In a post 9/11 world, brandishing a box cutter on a airliner would be a good way to get yourself beaten to a pulp.
Someone with many years of Mecca experience would never allow that to happen to themselves.
I'd hope all the onrushers have had their tetanus boosters....
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MarleysGh0st wrote:Okay, the discussion doesn't directly mention a box cutter death match, but I think this is the closest we've got on the Bored for today's "Found It."littlebeast13 wrote:themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:In a post 9/11 world, brandishing a box cutter on a airliner would be a good way to get yourself beaten to a pulp.
Someone with many years of Mecca experience would never allow that to happen to themselves.
I'd hope all the onrushers have had their tetanus boosters....
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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"
I just want to know why the two are smiling in the avatar.littlebeast13 wrote:MarleysGh0st wrote:Okay, the discussion doesn't directly mention a box cutter death match, but I think this is the closest we've got on the Bored for today's "Found It."littlebeast13 wrote:
Someone with many years of Mecca experience would never allow that to happen to themselves.
I'd hope all the onrushers have had their tetanus boosters....
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I drew the death match after I posted that. There technically was no Found It for this one, but this was the inspiring thread.....
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