Georgia "Election Fraud" Update

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Georgia "Election Fraud" Update

#1 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:31 am

Flock, using his new pen name of "Totes Legit Votes," had his day in court in front of the State Election Board yesterday, and the results were a resounding flop. From the Atlanta Journal:
The endless quest to find voting fraud in Georgia has come to this: Lengthy state investigations into anonymous allegations from someone called “Totes Legit Votes” who reported voter registrations that might include incorrect addresses. In several cases, an investigator found that victims of domestic violence or homeless people had used UPS stores or post office boxes as their addresses. Other voters said they didn’t know they were required to list their home addresses, and they agreed to update their registrations. The State Election Board recently dismissed the “Totes Legit” claims, though it did find likely wrongdoing in a separate case involving a woman who voted in Columbus last year after moving to South Carolina.

The attempt to disqualify voters based on questionable addresses is the latest example of allegations by Republican supporters of Donald Trump who believe the 2020 presidential election was stolen. Multiple recounts and investigations confirmed Trump lost. Over 100,000 registrations — 1 out of every 80 Georgia voters — have faced voter eligibility challenges since state legislators passed an elections law two years ago that allows any resident to contest the eligibility of an unlimited number of voters. “Where does the information come from? It’s people that troll through databases and look for residences and found that these people are using a UPS address,” said State Election Board Chairman Bill Duffey at an August meeting, before he resigned last month. “The amount of time to research this has been enormous.”

Voting fraud is rare in Georgia, with few cases of illegal ballots confirmed by the State Election Board in recent years despite hundreds of allegations. Investigations have repeatedly debunked claims of ballot stuffing, counterfeit ballots and dead voters. The state’s election investigation concluded that fewer than half of the addresses reported by Totes Legit actually broke voter residency rules, and errors that were confirmed didn’t amount to illegal voting, according to case files obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution through the Georgia Open Records Act.

Nineteen voters acknowledged using non-residential addresses, in some cases because they frequently travel or wanted a secure mailbox, and almost all of them told an investigator they’d correct their registration information. Six people said they used UPS stores as addresses because they were victims of domestic violence or feared for their safety. Through a Georgia program called VoteSafe, victims of domestic violence can register to vote without having to publicly reveal their home addresses. Four people said they were homeless. Twenty voters couldn’t be reached by phone and were mailed letters. In another 69 cases, there was no evidence of a violation. Those voters are either registered at their home address as they should be, or they haven’t voted in Georgia in recent years.

Totes Legit wrote in an email to the AJC that they use public records to find when election crimes might have been committed. Totes Legit declined to reveal their name, identifying themself as a “citizen election integrity activist.” “I don’t know or care if it is fraud on the part of the voter, an honest mistake, a stolen ballot used without the voters’ knowledge, or a ‘county error,’” Totes Legit wrote. “I find the possible cases and I report them. The same way you might call the police because you believe you saw a crime. It’s the government’s responsibility to investigate the case beyond that.”

The secretary of state’s office has opened at least 32 cases, involving hundreds of voter registrations, as a result of reports by Totes Legit since Dec. 31, 2020, according to government records obtained by the AJC. Eighteen of those cases are still open or pending presentation to the State Election Board. Voters shouldn’t be canceled solely because of inaccuracies in their addresses, said Vasu Abhiraman, an election board member in DeKalb County, where Totes Legit questioned registrations in the August case. But he said it’s also important for voter registrations to reflect residential addresses so voters receive ballots with the correct local candidates. “I do not support this loosey-goosey treatment that risks disenfranchising somebody,” said Abhiraman, an attorney who previously worked for the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. “Eligible voters need to stay on the rolls, and if anything needs to be corrected, the local government needs to handle that.”

Totes Legit has also alleged ineligible voters in other states such as Florida, where several people have been arrested based on accusations that they voted in two different states. No arrests have been made in Georgia. Conservative organizations such as Look Ahead America review public records and multistate voter lists to identify potentially ineligible voters, then report them to local election officials in Georgia and other states.

Twenty-two counties in Georgia have removed ineligible voters this year based on information from Look Ahead America, said Matt Braynard, a former analyst for the Republican Party who created the organization. Look Ahead America reported the woman who voted absentee in Columbus after moving to South Carolina in May 2022. That case is now being reviewed by the attorney general’s office. “One of the things that discourages people from voting is thinking that it’s all rigged and fraudulent,” Braynard said. That narrative has been pushed by Trump and his allies since he lost his re-election bid in 2020. Braynard said his group’s efforts are evidence-based. “We’re not out there making crazy claims we can’t back up,” he said. “Nobody wants to have an election tainted by fraud.”

While complaints by individuals and organizations are forcing Georgia election officials to investigate on a case-by-case basis, far more voter registrations are canceled during the government’s regular efforts to identify people who have moved away or died. The secretary of state’s office canceled 189,000 outdated registrations in September and removed 101,000 registrations in 2021.
https://www.ajc.com/politics/anonymous- ... AUWVBQ3EE/

In other Georgia election news, a trial is taking place this week in federal court in Gainesville, based on Operation Fair Fight (Stacy Abrams group) claims that the True the Vote tactics here in Georgia amount to illegal voter intimidation under the Voting Rights Act. That trial should take 1 to 2 weeks.
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Re: Georgia "Election Fraud" Update

#2 Post by Weyoun » Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:26 am

Whoa! Too many facts! Back off some.

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Re: Georgia "Election Fraud" Update

#3 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:53 am

https://en-volve.com/2023/11/09/trouble ... 0-ballots/

The prevailing narrative is that a group of crazy people (maybe monsters like me) want to overturn the results of the 2020 election and install Trump as President. Just another one of the lies and selective coverage of this issue from the state-run media.

There are thousands of people all over the country who have uncovered serious and indisputable evidence that the results of the 2020 election (and others) have been tampered with. The extreme complexity that has been brought into our election system over the years has made it virtually impossible to be sure of the actual, final results of any election. And it makes it impossible to have any election that is in any way transparent.

I do not want to overturn any election that has already been 'decided'. It is incredibly difficult to get support for overturning an election after the fact. What I want to do is to make future elections are as transparent and as free from the hundreds of proven vulnerabilities as possible, so that even the most skeptical can be reasonably sure that the reported results are true. That has not and is not the case at present. And because of the prevalent and unshakable narrative promoted by the powers that be and the media they control, very little is being done to fix the problems that have been uncovered.

The link I posted above IS a fact. The case is that a group of private citizens want to examine thousands of ballots that were counted in the election that are suspicious in nature and have affidavits from people who have seen them. They went through the judicial system and despite a lot of roadblocks finally were found to have standing. Fulton county has done everything to deny access to the ballots. The rumor now is that they have actually destroyed the ballots in question, which is why these two lawyers want to remove themselves from the case.

It is a compelling story. Why do we only hear of it from sources like 'en-volve'? Why doesn't AP or CNN of any of the other state-controlled media from which you are always quoting feel this is something not worthy of reporting? I know the answer, and so do you, though you won't admit it to yourself.

I have personally seen hundreds of demonstrations, videos of actual events, statistical anomalies, and affidavits of witnesses that show instances of outright lawbreaking, vulnerabilities in our election system, both in the machinery and the software that they run. And documented instances where people with the responsibility to act on this evidence have run away and hid from it. That includes our own SOS Brad Raffensperger specifically. Mounds and mounds of actual evidence.

What do you have on your side? Only sincere press statements from politicians that state that the 'xxx' election was 'The most safe and secure' election in the 'country, world, history... whatever', with no credible support to their statements.

And what is the most egregious are these people who are making up their own laws to prosecute Trump to keep the BIG LIE, which is not that the election was stolen, but that the election was the most secure in history, protected from any scrutiny. There was no victim in the NY case, just the fact that the AG wanted to get Trump on something. There is nothing on trial in Georgia except free speech and political bullying, from another DA who ran on getting Trump for something. Jack Smith is prosecuting Trump for made-up crimes that Joe Biden violated much more egregiously. All of them specifically timed to do the most damage to Trump's re-election campaign.

So excuse me for dismissing this whole charade. The big problem with what your party is doing is that you are establishing the precedents here. And when and if Trump gets re-elected, I will support him in using your precedents against you.
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#4 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:37 am

Just one of hundreds of examples that according to you and Brad don't exist and don't matter.

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#5 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:08 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:53 am
https://en-volve.com/2023/11/09/trouble ... 0-ballots/

The link I posted above IS a fact. The case is that a group of private citizens want to examine thousands of ballots that were counted in the election that are suspicious in nature and have affidavits from people who have seen them. They went through the judicial system and despite a lot of roadblocks finally were found to have standing. Fulton county has done everything to deny access to the ballots. The rumor now is that they have actually destroyed the ballots in question, which is why these two lawyers want to remove themselves from the case.
The "rumor" is the ramblings from some right-wing sites that Flock apparently gets the bulk of his "news" from. The facts are rather different. The two attorneys who filed motions to withdraw, Don Samuel and Amanda Palmer, also represent Ray Smith, one of the defendants in the Trump Georgia case. The Fulton County prosecutors raised the potential conflict of interest in September with the judge. Samuel and Palmer's withdrawal from this case is far more likely a reaction to the claims of conflict of interest than to any possible "smoking gun" that's about to be revealed in a 2020 voter fraud case that's spinning its wheels right now.

https://www.ajc.com/news/prosecution-de ... LKTBJHM6Q/
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#6 Post by jarnon » Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:40 am

I read the article Flock posted from en-volve. The main claim of election fraud is that a monitor noticed 110 mail ballots werenʻt folded and were marked with a dabber instead of a pen. It sounds like a group of people filled and delivered their absentee ballots together. Was this a sanctioned gathering, say at a municipal office or a nursing home, or improper vote harvesting? Iʻd like to know. Also, officials should validate ballots without looking at what candidate theyʻre for. Sloppy procedures do cast doubt on elections.

But the article begins with an unfounded claim that 150,000 ballots (1,300 times the actual 110) were suspect. Flock should never post such sensationalist "journalism"
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Re: Georgia "Election Fraud" Update

#7 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:51 pm

jarnon wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:40 am
I read the article Flock posted from en-volve. The main claim of election fraud is that a monitor noticed 110 mail ballots werenʻt folded and were marked with a dabber instead of a pen. It sounds like a group of people filled and delivered their absentee ballots together. Was this a sanctioned gathering, say at a municipal office or a nursing home, or improper vote harvesting? Iʻd like to know. Also, officials should validate ballots without looking at what candidate theyʻre for. Sloppy procedures do cast doubt on elections.

But the article begins with an unfounded claim that 150,000 ballots (1,300 times the actual 110) were suspect. Flock should never post such sensationalist "journalism"
No further comment, but I go with the reporting. It is shoddy, as most journalism is these days, but I go with the facts and numbers presented.
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#8 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:53 pm

The big problem with what your party is doing is that you are establishing the precedents here. And when and if Trump gets re-elected, I will support him in using your precedents against you.

As I said, you reap what you sow. And I don't like it one bit. But, unfortunately, we've got to even the playing field. Like Israel, we have unscrupulous, uncivilized enemies.
During the Univision interview, journalist Enrique Acevedo questioned Trump about his stance on using federal agencies as political weapons. Trump responded ambiguously, implying that the Biden administration’s actions have set a dangerous precedent.

“They’ve already done it. But if they want to follow through on this, yeah, it could certainly happen in reverse,” Trump said.

Trump continued, suggesting that indictments could be used strategically against political rivals, potentially disqualifying them from elections.

A spokesperson for the Trump campaign later clarified that Trump’s remarks were in reference to future elected officials, highlighting the perceived dangers of Biden’s tactics against political opponents.

This development arrives as Trump faces nearly 100 charges across four criminal trials, spanning business fraud in New York to allegations of election interference. Despite these legal battles, Trump remains a formidable contender for the Republican nomination, leveraging his influence to reshape the political landscape and rally support for a potential 2024 presidential bid.
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