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Donny retaliates against Col. Vindman

#1 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:36 pm

Col. Vindman has been fired from his White House position on the National Security Council and was escorted off the grounds. I guess Senator Collins was right. Donny really has learned his lesson. And the lesson he learned is that he can do pretty much anything to anyone without consequence. --Bob
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#2 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:25 pm

Or vet people better who work around him. Whistleblower much? He can fire whomever he wishes. Just because squishy testimony didn't go your way. Better start ramping up your donations for opponents. You have a strong field.
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#3 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:49 pm

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Or vet people better who work around him. Whistleblower much? He can fire whomever he wishes. Just because squishy testimony didn't go your way. Better start ramping up your donations for opponents. You have a strong field.
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If by vet you mean test them for personal loyalty to Donny rather than loyalty to the country, I'm sure that's exactly what Donny is trying to do. I can't understand, though, why you think that's good for the country. --Bob
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Re: Donny retaliates against Col. Vindman

#4 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:55 pm

And while you're at it, you might try explaining why Vindman's brother also was fired. Because I can't explain that other than as an effort to retaliate against Vindman for testifying.

These are Mafia tactics. And you're cheering them on. Disgusting. --Bob
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#5 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:00 pm

Did you even watch any of the testimony?
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#6 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:04 pm

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Did you even watch any of the testimony?
Vindman's? I'm sure he had no TV to watch in his office, but I do and watched every minute. Do you have any questions?
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#7 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:18 pm

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#8 Post by a1mamacat » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:29 pm

He has now fired Sondland too, his own hand picked Ambassador.
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#9 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:38 pm

a1mamacat wrote:
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He has now fired Sondland too, his own hand picked Ambassador.
Will there be more? Is this a Friday Night Massacre? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre
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Re: Donny retaliates against Col. Vindman

#10 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:38 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:18 pm
Policy. Policy.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... y.amp.html
You realize, of course, that if a private employer anywhere in the country fired an employee because of sworn testimony the employee had given, that employer would be subject to a massive damage award for retaliatory discharge, almost certainly including punitive damages. That's because, as a country, we don't want employers able to intimidate future whistleblowers by making an example of past whistleblowers.

But as usual, Donny is acting as though he's above the law. And as usual, the Republicans in Congress, aided and abetted by the voters who send them back to Washington, are letting them. --Bob
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Re: Donny retaliates against Col. Vindman

#11 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:00 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:38 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:18 pm
Policy. Policy.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... y.amp.html
You realize, of course, that if a private employer anywhere in the country fired an employee because of sworn testimony the employee had given, that employer would be subject to a massive damage award for retaliatory discharge, almost certainly including punitive damages. That's because, as a country, we don't want employers able to intimidate future whistleblowers by making an example of past whistleblowers.

But as usual, Donny is acting as though he's above the law. And as usual, the Republicans in Congress, aided and abetted by the voters who send them back to Washington, are letting them. --Bob
He wasn't the whistleblower. Duh
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#12 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:03 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:00 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:38 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:18 pm
Policy. Policy.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... y.amp.html
You realize, of course, that if a private employer anywhere in the country fired an employee because of sworn testimony the employee had given, that employer would be subject to a massive damage award for retaliatory discharge, almost certainly including punitive damages. That's because, as a country, we don't want employers able to intimidate future whistleblowers by making an example of past whistleblowers.

But as usual, Donny is acting as though he's above the law. And as usual, the Republicans in Congress, aided and abetted by the voters who send them back to Washington, are letting them. --Bob
He wasn't the whistleblower. Duh
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Re: Donny retaliates against Col. Vindman

#13 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:07 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:00 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:38 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:18 pm
Policy. Policy.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... y.amp.html
You realize, of course, that if a private employer anywhere in the country fired an employee because of sworn testimony the employee had given, that employer would be subject to a massive damage award for retaliatory discharge, almost certainly including punitive damages. That's because, as a country, we don't want employers able to intimidate future whistleblowers by making an example of past whistleblowers.

But as usual, Donny is acting as though he's above the law. And as usual, the Republicans in Congress, aided and abetted by the voters who send them back to Washington, are letting them. --Bob
He wasn't the whistleblower. Duh
He was fired for giving testimony under oath that Donny didn't like. That's all that matters.

But you don't care. And neither do most Republican voters. Which is why the Republican Party must be politically destroyed. --Bob
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Re: Donny retaliates against Col. Vindman

#14 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:12 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:07 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:00 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:38 pm
You realize, of course, that if a private employer anywhere in the country fired an employee because of sworn testimony the employee had given, that employer would be subject to a massive damage award for retaliatory discharge, almost certainly including punitive damages. That's because, as a country, we don't want employers able to intimidate future whistleblowers by making an example of past whistleblowers.

But as usual, Donny is acting as though he's above the law. And as usual, the Republicans in Congress, aided and abetted by the voters who send them back to Washington, are letting them. --Bob
He wasn't the whistleblower. Duh
He was fired for giving testimony under oath that Donny didn't like. That's all that matters.

But you don't care. And neither do most Republican voters. Which is why the Republican Party must be politically destroyed. --Bob
During impeachment hearings. I'd fire someone,too. You're dim.
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#15 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:20 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:12 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:07 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:00 pm

He wasn't the whistleblower. Duh
He was fired for giving testimony under oath that Donny didn't like. That's all that matters.

But you don't care. And neither do most Republican voters. Which is why the Republican Party must be politically destroyed. --Bob
During impeachment hearings. I'd fire someone,too. You're dim.
And if you ever did, you'd better be prepared to write that someone a very large check. --Bob
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#16 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:20 pm

Here's actual whistleblower stuff.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatl ... le/241262/
Before BobJ claims whataboutism!!!!
Trump didn't fire a whistleblower. He fired an employee.
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#17 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:28 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:20 pm
Here's actual whistleblower stuff.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatl ... le/241262/
Before BobJ claims whataboutism!!!!
Trump didn't fire a whistleblower. He fired an employee.
For complying with his legal (and moral) obligation to testify truthfully under oath. And you're just fine with that.

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#18 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:34 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:28 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:20 pm
Here's actual whistleblower stuff.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatl ... le/241262/
Before BobJ claims whataboutism!!!!
Trump didn't fire a whistleblower. He fired an employee.
For complying with his legal (and moral) obligation to testify truthfully under oath. And you're just fine with that.

The Republican Party is sick. And the illness deserves to be politically fatal. --Bob
Jeez, you,re so verklempt. And, gonna lose. Find a hobby.
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#19 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:39 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:34 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:28 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:20 pm
Here's actual whistleblower stuff.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatl ... le/241262/
Before BobJ claims whataboutism!!!!
Trump didn't fire a whistleblower. He fired an employee.
For complying with his legal (and moral) obligation to testify truthfully under oath. And you're just fine with that.

The Republican Party is sick. And the illness deserves to be politically fatal. --Bob
Jeez, you,re so verklempt. And, gonna lose. Find a hobby.
I have one. It's called fighting to protect my country from those who would let it wither away, or worse, who cheer on the politicians who are destroying the values that make us great. --Bob
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#20 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:40 pm

The Vindmans were removed from serving in the White House. They were not fired. Why would they want to continue working there? Why would Trump want to continue having them there? They serve at the President's 'pleasure', do they not? I'm sure neither was very pleased with the other.
Sondland, too, served at the pleasure of the President. When there's no trust, what else is there to do? Keep people on when you don't trust them because it's politically correct?
The blame for this is squarely on the democrats for inflating this phone call into a purely partisan impeachment. The public has been prevented from seeing the genesis of this. They won't even utter the name of the 'whistle blower' even though every one of them knows who he is. Eric doesn't work for the president, the white house or anyone else in the government. He works for US. He is not guaranteed a job, any more than any of us are. There are many reports of shady relationships and events that merit investigation. If the dems want to keep pursuing this, Eric needs to be subpoenaed and be asked questions. Or has it already been debunked by some nameless authority we don't know anything about?

Since you decided to use the word ' retaliate', what have the dems been doing to the trump administration every day since he took office?
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#21 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:42 pm

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The Vindmans were removed from serving in the White House. They were not fired. Why would they want to continue working there? Why would Trump want to continue having them there? They serve at the President's 'pleasure', do they not? I'm sure neither was very pleased with the other.
Sondland, too, served at the pleasure of the President. When there's no trust, what else is there to do? Keep people on when you don't trust them because it's politically correct?
The blame for this is squarely on the democrats for inflating this phone call into a purely partisan impeachment. The public has been prevented from seeing the genesis of this. They won't even utter the name of the 'whistle blower' even though every one of them knows who he is. Eric doesn't work for the president, the white house or anyone else in the government. He works for US. He is not guaranteed a job, any more than any of us are. There are many reports of shady relationships and events that merit investigation. If the dems want to keep pursuing this, Eric needs to be subpoenaed and be asked questions. Or has it already been debunked by some nameless authority we don't know anything about?
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#22 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:49 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:42 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:40 pm
The Vindmans were removed from serving in the White House. They were not fired. Why would they want to continue working there? Why would Trump want to continue having them there? They serve at the President's 'pleasure', do they not? I'm sure neither was very pleased with the other.
Sondland, too, served at the pleasure of the President. When there's no trust, what else is there to do? Keep people on when you don't trust them because it's politically correct?
The blame for this is squarely on the democrats for inflating this phone call into a purely partisan impeachment. The public has been prevented from seeing the genesis of this. They won't even utter the name of the 'whistle blower' even though every one of them knows who he is. Eric doesn't work for the president, the white house or anyone else in the government. He works for US. He is not guaranteed a job, any more than any of us are. There are many reports of shady relationships and events that merit investigation. If the dems want to keep pursuing this, Eric needs to be subpoenaed and be asked questions. Or has it already been debunked by some nameless authority we don't know anything about?
So you think it would have been just fine for President Obama to fire James Comey for saying what he said about Secretary Clinton? Bullshit. You'd have been up in arms. --Bob
No, actually I don't think I would have been. The only thing that gets me up in arms is democrat party hypocrisy and phony self righteousness.
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#23 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:50 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:20 pm
Here's actual whistleblower stuff.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatl ... le/241262/
Before BobJ claims whataboutism!!!!
Trump didn't fire a whistleblower. He fired an employee.
You're claiming that Obama was wrong for doing what trump did?
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#24 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:56 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:50 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:20 pm
Here's actual whistleblower stuff.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatl ... le/241262/
Before BobJ claims whataboutism!!!!
Trump didn't fire a whistleblower. He fired an employee.
You're claiming that Obama was wrong for doing what trump did?
The MSM is lying that he got fired. He was removed from his station at the White House. He was not fired. Sondland is a civilian. He is being recalled.
Just a little more fake news there. Put it on the list of 30, 000 media lies.
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#25 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:06 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:56 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:50 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:20 pm
Here's actual whistleblower stuff.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatl ... le/241262/
Before BobJ claims whataboutism!!!!
Trump didn't fire a whistleblower. He fired an employee.
You're claiming that Obama was wrong for doing what trump did?
The MSM is lying that he got fired. He was removed from his station at the White House. He was not fired. Sondland is a civilian. He is being recalled.
Just a little more fake news there. Put it on the list of 30, 000 media lies.
A retaliatory change of work responsibilities is just as bad as outright firing someone.

And he was, in fact, fired from his position on the National Security Council. For no other reason than that Donny didn't like the truthful testimony he gave when compelled to do so. We all knew that Donny would run the government like a Mafia fiefdom. What's horrifying is that so many voters, like you, are so in the tank for Donny that they're cheering him on as he does it. --Bob
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