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Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:34 pm
by mellytu74
We still don't know the wrong definite, do we? or the wrong question mark.

MATCHES COMING SHORTLY

Identify the 100 actors below. (The first two clues are an exchange between two actors in the same movie; every other clue after that is a quotation.) Then, match them into 52 pairs according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. Three actors will be used twice, each time in a different capacity. One actor will be matched with herself.

1. LAUREN BACALL
2. WENDY HILLER
3. DOUGLAS FAIRBANKS, JR.

4. “Look, you shoot off a guy's head with his pants down, believe me, Texas is not the place you wanna get caught.”

SUSAN SARANDON

5. RITA HAYWORTH
6. DICK POWELL
7. KATY JURADO
8. GLADYS COOPER
9. MAUREEN O’SULLIVAN
10. RIP TORN
11. JOANNE WOODWARD
12. BARBARA O'NEIL
13. VIRGINIA CHERRILL
14. MADONNA

15. Her film career included adaptations of works by Joseph Conrad, Theodore Dreiser, Victor Hugo, Agatha Christie, Elmer Rice, and Sidney Kingsley.
SYLVIA SIDNEY?

16. TIMOTHY HUTTON
17. ALLA NAZIMOVA
18. MAUREEN O'HARA

19. She was the only Oscar-winning actress to direct an Oscar-winning documentary.

20. JOHN PAYNE
21. EMMA THOMPSON
22. JOEL McCREA
23. ALICE BRADY
24. ANNE BANCROFT
25. BRIAN AHERNE
26. TERESA WRIGHT
27. MERCEDES McCAMBRIDGE

28. “Why should I think about reality in this stink hole? That's like ‘Why should I get more depressed that I already am?’"

WILLIAM HURT (kiss of the Spider Woman) - gives us Mary Beth Hurt.

29. ELIZABETH ASHLEY
30. ANNETTE BENING
31. GLENN FORD
32. KATHLEEN TURNER
33. AVA GARDNER

34. “'Unknown.' That's the key word. 'Unknown.' When we become involved in a supernatural event, we're scared out of our wits just because it's unknown. The night cry of a child. A face on the wall. Knockings, bangings. What's there to be afraid of? You weren't threatened. It was harmless, like a joke that doesn't come out.”

RICHARD JOHNSON - gives us Kim Novak for Betty Field in Picnic

35. GLORIA GRAHAME
36. DIANNE WIEST
37. BOBBY DARIN
38. DOROTHY McGUIRE

39. GRAND DAMES, PART ONE: She is the only 20th century actress interred in Westminster Abbey.
PEGGY ASHCROFT?

40. JAMIE BELL
41. RHEA PERLMAN
42. ALI McGRAW
43. MARION LORNE
44. ELLEN BURSTYN
45. JOHN AGAR
46. PHOEBE CATES

47. This Irish actress appeared in only ten films, including a blockbuster in which she played Charlie Chaplin’s mother-in-law … sort of.

48. ANGELINA JOLIE
49. JERRY STILLER
50. GREER GARSON
51. RONALD REAGAN
52. RICHARD BURTON
53. MARY ASTOR

54. “You can't fight her - no one ever got the better of her. Never, never. She was beaten in the end, but it wasn't a man, it wasn't a woman. It was the sea!”

JUDITH ANDERSON (Stanwyck's mom in Martha Ivers)

55. KAY KENDALL
56. JANE ALEXANDER
57. ROBERT WAGNER

58. “Joanna! How could you do a thing like that? How could you do a thing like that? How could you do a thing like that? When I was just going to give you coffee. When I was just going to give you coffee! When I was just going to give you coffee! I thought we were friends! I thought we were friends! I was just going to give you coffee! I was just going to give you coffee! I thought we were friends. I thought we were friends. I thought we were friends. How could you do a thing like that? I thought we were friends.”

PAULA PRENTISS - give us RIchard Benjamin

59. JULIE CHRISTIE
60. JAMES BROLIN
61. CARROLL BAKER
62. FRANK SINATRA
63. UNA MERKEL
64. ANGELA LANSBURY
65. BETTY FIELD
66. SAM ELLIOTT
67. EDNA MAY OLIVER
68. BARBARA STANWYCK
69. AGNES MOREHEAD
70. ANNE RAMSEY
71. ETHEL BARRYMORE
72. SHIRLEY MacLAINE
73. STEWART GRANGER

74. “A man can afford to have noble sentiments and poses, but a woman only has the man she married. That's her truth. And if he's no good, that's still her truth. I married a man who was a liar, a thief and a coward. He was a drunkard and unfaithful. He only married me to get this ranch and then he deserted Johnny and me for good. And that's your fine truth for you. Could I bring Johnny up on that?”

GERALDINE PAGE

75. LANA TURNER
76. HOLLY HUNTER
77. MARJORIE RAMBEAU
78. CLARK GABLE
79. SPRING BYINGTON
80. TOM CRUISE
81. MARJORIE MAIN
82. MILLIE PERKINS

83. She was the first performer on a list that would later include Barry Fitzgerald, Jessica Lange, Sigourney Weaver, Al Pacino, Julianne Moore, Jamie Foxx, Cate Blanchett, and the actors in Clues #21, #26, and #76.

84. HANK AZARIA
85. IDA LUPINO

86. “Like that morning, when you walked out of that old house and you were, you were eighteen, and maybe I was nineteen. I was nineteen years old, and I'd never seen anything so beautiful. You, coming out of a glass door in your early morning, still sleepy. Isn't it strange, the most ordinary morning in anybody's life? I'm afraid I can't make it to the party, Clarissa.

ED HARRIS

87. BARBARA RUSH
88. CLORIS LEACHMAN
89. SEAN CONNERY
90. NATALIE WOOD
91. SARAH JESSICA PARKER
92. CLAIRE TREVOR

93. GRAND DAMES, PART II: She and opera singer Nelly Melba were the first entertainers to be named Dame Commanders of the British Empire.
DAME MAY WHITTY?

94. MALCOLM McDOWELL
95. SUZANNE PLESHETTE
96. DEBBIE REYNOLDS
97. BRENDA BLETHLYN
98. LAURENCE OLIVIER
99. JENNIFER JONES
100. PAUL NEWMAN

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:05 pm
by jarnon
franktangredi wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:26 am
jarnon wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:05 am
WTG, Melly! That means one actress played the mother of her real-life husband (icky).
jarnon wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:00 pm
I don’t have anything helpful to add, but I have an off-topic question. I just noticed that Helena Bonham Carter plays Princess Margaret in The Crown. I really liked Bonham Carter as Elizabeth Duchess of York in The King’s Speech. Frank, have other actresses played a mother and daughter?
Turns out my question wasn’t really off-topic. Since that’s out of the way now, can you answer the question?
I can't think of one offhand, other than cases of one actress playing two generations in the same film (such as Frances Farmer in Come and Get It.)
Here's a lowbrow one: Helen Slater was the title character in Supergirl, and she plays Eliza Danvers, Supergirl's mother, in the Supergirl TV series.

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:37 pm
by silverscreenselect
Patrick Stewart played Richard the Lionhearted in Robin Hood: Men in Tights, and an older Stewart played Henry II in a TV movie version of The Lion in Winter (opposite Glenn Close).

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:59 pm
by mellytu74
Am I correct that we still have one incorrect definite and one of the question marks is wrong.

1. LAUREN BACALL married to Humphrey Bogart (81. MARJORIE MAIN in Dead End)
60. JAMES BROLIN married to Barbra Streisand (1. LAUREN BACALL in The Mirror Has Two Faces)
95. SUZANNE PLESHETTE married to Troy Donahue (38. DOROTHY McGUIRE in A Summer Place)
99. JENNIFER JONES married to Robert Walker (43. MARION LORNE in Strangers on a Train)
41. RHEA PERLMAN married to Danny DeVito (70. ANNE RAMSEY Throw Mamma from the Train)
16. TIMOTHY HUTTON married to Debra Winger (72. SHIRLEY MacLAINE in Terms of Endearment)
90. NATALIE WOOD married to Robert Wagne (53. MARY ASTOR in A Kiss Before Dying)
57. ROBERT WAGNER married to Natalie Wood, (18. MAUREEN O'HARA in Miracle on 34th Street)
21. EMMA THOMPSON married to Kenneth Branagh, (59. JULIE CHRISTIE in Hamlet)
78. CLARK GABLE married to Carole Lombard (23. ALICE BRADY in My Man Godfrey)
98. LAURENCE OLIVIER married to Vivien Leigh, (12. BARBARA O'NEIL in GWTW)
13. VIRGINIA CHERRILL was married to Cary Grant (71. ETHEL BARRYMORE in None But the Lonely Heart)
5. RITA HAYWORTH married to Dick Haymes (83. FAY BAINTER in State Fair)
84. HANK AZARIA married to Helen Hunt (32. KATHLEEN TURNER in Peggy Sue Got Married)
34. RICHARD JOHNSON married to Kim Novak (65. BETTY FIELD in Picnic)
10. RIP TORN married to Geraldine Page (63. UNA MERKEL in Summer and Smoke)
100. PAUL NEWMAN married to Joanne Woodward (15. SYLVIA SIDNEY in Summer Dreams, Winter Dreams)
37. BOBBY DARIN married to Sandra Dee (75. LANA TURNER in Imitation of life)
62. FRANK SINATRA married to Mia Farrow (9. MAUREEN O’SULLIVAN in Hannah and Her Sisters)
55. KAY KENDALL married to Rex Harrison (8. GLADYS COOPER in My Fair Lady)
22. JOEL McCREA married to Frances Dee (79. SPRING BYINGTON in Little Women)

6. DICK POWELL married to June Allyson, in Little Women with 53. MARY ASTOR. This might be wrong because we’ve already got Astor as Mom to Robert Wagner and I think that’s a better match. And for it to be the second match for Astor, it would have to be the other way.

68. BARBARA STANWYCK married to Robert Taylor (17. ALLA NAZIMOVA – some Nazi movie I can’t remember – she’s in a concentration camp, she’s a musician or something musical). I was going crazy trying to see how we were going to find Tyrone Power for Blood and Sand. :D :D :D

Am I going crazy or was Robert Taylor an answer in this puzzle to give us Judith Anderson as Stanwyck’s mother in Martha Ivers?


Identify the 100 actors below. (The first two clues are an exchange between two actors in the same movie; every other clue after that is a quotation.) Then, match them into 52 pairs according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. Three actors will be used twice, each time in a different capacity. One actor will be matched with herself.

1. LAUREN BACALL
2. WENDY HILLER
3. DOUGLAS FAIRBANKS, JR.

4. “Look, you shoot off a guy's head with his pants down, believe me, Texas is not the place you wanna get caught.”

SUSAN SARANDON

5. RITA HAYWORTH
6. DICK POWELL
7. KATY JURADO
8. GLADYS COOPER
9. MAUREEN O’SULLIVAN
10. RIP TORN
11. JOANNE WOODWARD
12. BARBARA O'NEIL
13. VIRGINIA CHERRILL
14. MADONNA

15. Her film career included adaptations of works by Joseph Conrad, Theodore Dreiser, Victor Hugo, Agatha Christie, Elmer Rice, and Sidney Kingsley.
SYLVIA SIDNEY?

16. TIMOTHY HUTTON
17. ALLA NAZIMOVA
18. MAUREEN O'HARA

19. She was the only Oscar-winning actress to direct an Oscar-winning documentary.

20. JOHN PAYNE
21. EMMA THOMPSON
22. JOEL McCREA
23. ALICE BRADY
24. ANNE BANCROFT
25. BRIAN AHERNE
26. TERESA WRIGHT
27. MERCEDES McCAMBRIDGE

28. “Why should I think about reality in this stink hole? That's like ‘Why should I get more depressed that I already am?’"

WILLIAM HURT (kiss of the Spider Woman) - gives us Mary Beth Hurt.

29. ELIZABETH ASHLEY
30. ANNETTE BENING
31. GLENN FORD
32. KATHLEEN TURNER
33. AVA GARDNER

34. “'Unknown.' That's the key word. 'Unknown.' When we become involved in a supernatural event, we're scared out of our wits just because it's unknown. The night cry of a child. A face on the wall. Knockings, bangings. What's there to be afraid of? You weren't threatened. It was harmless, like a joke that doesn't come out.”

RICHARD JOHNSON - gives us Kim Novak for Betty Field in Picnic

35. GLORIA GRAHAME
36. DIANNE WIEST
37. BOBBY DARIN
38. DOROTHY McGUIRE

39. GRAND DAMES, PART ONE: She is the only 20th century actress interred in Westminster Abbey.
PEGGY ASHCROFT?

40. JAMIE BELL
41. RHEA PERLMAN
42. ALI McGRAW
43. MARION LORNE
44. ELLEN BURSTYN
45. JOHN AGAR
46. PHOEBE CATES

47. This Irish actress appeared in only ten films, including a blockbuster in which she played Charlie Chaplin’s mother-in-law … sort of.

48. ANGELINA JOLIE
49. JERRY STILLER
50. GREER GARSON
51. RONALD REAGAN
52. RICHARD BURTON
53. MARY ASTOR

54. “You can't fight her - no one ever got the better of her. Never, never. She was beaten in the end, but it wasn't a man, it wasn't a woman. It was the sea!”

JUDITH ANDERSON (Stanwyck's mom in Martha Ivers)

55. KAY KENDALL
56. JANE ALEXANDER
57. ROBERT WAGNER

58. “Joanna! How could you do a thing like that? How could you do a thing like that? How could you do a thing like that? When I was just going to give you coffee. When I was just going to give you coffee! When I was just going to give you coffee! I thought we were friends! I thought we were friends! I was just going to give you coffee! I was just going to give you coffee! I thought we were friends. I thought we were friends. I thought we were friends. How could you do a thing like that? I thought we were friends.”

PAULA PRENTISS

59. JULIE CHRISTIE
60. JAMES BROLIN
61. CARROLL BAKER
62. FRANK SINATRA
63. UNA MERKEL
64. ANGELA LANSBURY
65. BETTY FIELD
66. SAM ELLIOTT
67. EDNA MAY OLIVER
68. BARBARA STANWYCK
69. AGNES MOREHEAD
70. ANNE RAMSEY
71. ETHEL BARRYMORE
72. SHIRLEY MacLAINE
73. STEWART GRANGER

74. “A man can afford to have noble sentiments and poses, but a woman only has the man she married. That's her truth. And if he's no good, that's still her truth. I married a man who was a liar, a thief and a coward. He was a drunkard and unfaithful. He only married me to get this ranch and then he deserted Johnny and me for good. And that's your fine truth for you. Could I bring Johnny up on that?”

GERALDINE PAGE

75. LANA TURNER
76. HOLLY HUNTER
77. MARJORIE RAMBEAU
78. CLARK GABLE
79. SPRING BYINGTON
80. TOM CRUISE
81. MARJORIE MAIN
82. MILLIE PERKINS

83. She was the first performer on a list that would later include Barry Fitzgerald, Jessica Lange, Sigourney Weaver, Al Pacino, Julianne Moore, Jamie Foxx, Cate Blanchett, and the actors in Clues #21, #26, and #76.

FAY BAINTER

84. HANK AZARIA
85. IDA LUPINO

86. “Like that morning, when you walked out of that old house and you were, you were eighteen, and maybe I was nineteen. I was nineteen years old, and I'd never seen anything so beautiful. You, coming out of a glass door in your early morning, still sleepy. Isn't it strange, the most ordinary morning in anybody's life? I'm afraid I can't make it to the party, Clarissa.

ED HARRIS

87. BARBARA RUSH
88. CLORIS LEACHMAN
89. SEAN CONNERY
90. NATALIE WOOD
91. SARAH JESSICA PARKER
92. CLAIRE TREVOR

93. GRAND DAMES, PART II: She and opera singer Nelly Melba were the first entertainers to be named Dame Commanders of the British Empire.
DAME MAY WHITTY?

94. MALCOLM McDOWELL
95. SUZANNE PLESHETTE
96. DEBBIE REYNOLDS
97. BRENDA BLETHLYN
98. LAURENCE OLIVIER
99. JENNIFER JONES
100. PAUL NEWMAN

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:14 pm
by mellytu74
47. This Irish actress appeared in only ten films, including a blockbuster in which she played Charlie Chaplin’s mother-in-law … sort of.

I just realized this has to be SIOBHAN McKENNA.

87. BARBARA RUSH married to Jeffrey Hunter (47. SIOBHAN McKENNA in King of Kings)


3. DOUGLAS FAIRBANKS, JR. married to Joan Crawford (77. MARJORIE RAMBEAU in Torch Song)

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:28 pm
by mellytu74
86. ED HARRIS married to Amy Madigan (44. ELLEN BURSTYN …..)

in that movie where Gene Hackman leaves Burstyn for Ann-Margret. I think Madigan got an Oscar nom.

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:37 pm
by jarnon
11. JOANNE WOODWARD married to Paul Newman (54. JUDITH ANDERSON in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof)

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:40 pm
by littlebeast13
franktangredi wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:31 am
mellytu74 wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:38 pm
RIP Torn - Geraldine Page - Una Merkel - Summer and Smoke

Hank Azria - Heken Hunt - Ksthleen Turnet - Peggy Sue Got Married.

Box Office Poison = flops?. Not GWTW or Stare Fair...
Don't worry too much about the title of the game. That was a private joke of mine, referencing a hit song, which has no value as a clue.

My first thought was Ernie K. Doe's "Mother in Law," but it doesn't reference poison. The LSWE-meister is curious...

lb13

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:03 pm
by mellytu74
46. PHOEBE CATES married to Kevin Kline (96. DEBBIE REYNOLDS in In and Out)
66. SAM ELLIOTT married to Katherine Ross (24. ANNE BANCROFT in The Graduate)
57. ROBERT WAGNER married to Natalie Wood, (92. CLAIRE TREVOR in Marjorie Morning star)

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:14 pm
by jarnon
Lots of possibilities: 14. MADONNA married to Sean Penn, 24. ANNE BANCROFT married to Mel Brooks, 30. ANNETTE BENING married to Warren Beatty, 42. ALI McGRAW married to Steve McQueen, 48. ANGELINA JOLIE married to good ol' Billy Bored, 49. JERRY STILLER married to Anne Meara.

I thought I found a match: 51. RONALD REAGAN married to Jane Wyman (69. AGNES MOOREHEAD in Johnny Belinda), but Wikipedia says Agnes was Jane's aunt.

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:14 pm
by mellytu74
33. AVA GARDNER married to Mickey Rooney (79. SPRING BYINGTON in Ah Wilderness)
31. GLENN FORD married to Eleanor Powell (67. EDNA MAY OLIVER in Rosalie)
5. RITA HAYWORTH married to Orson Welles (69. AGNES MOREHEAD in Citizen Kane)

AND THE MATCH TO HERSELF:

50. GREER GARSON married to Richard Ney who played the son of 50. GREER GARSON in Mrs. Miniver

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:17 pm
by mellytu74
jarnon wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:14 pm
I thought I found a match: 51. RONALD REAGAN married to Jane Wyman (69. AGNES MOOREHEAD in Johnny Belinda), but Wikipedia says Agnes was Jane's aunt.
Jane Wyman is driving me crazy. I'm not familiar enough with Nancy Davis's movies to come up with anything there.

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:22 pm
by jarnon
80. TOM CRUISE married to Nicole Kidman (72. SHIRLEY MacLAINE in Bewitched)

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:32 pm
by mellytu74
94. MALCOLM McDOWELL married to Mary Steenburgen (35. GLORIA GRAHAME in Melvin and Howard)

91. SARAH JESSICA PARKER married to Matthew Broderick (56. JANE ALEXANDER in Glory)

30. ANNETTE BENING married to Warren Beatty (64. ANGELA LANSBURY in All Fall Down)

82. MILLIE PERKINS married to Dean Stockwell (2. WENDY HILLER (Sons and Lovers)

20. JOHN PAYNE married to Anne Shirley (68. BARBARA STANWYCK in Stella Dallas)

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:49 pm
by mellytu74
73. STEWART GRANGER married to Jean Simmons (26. TERESA WRIGHT in The Actress)

29. ELIZABETH ASHLEY married to George Peppard (61. CARROLL BAKER in How the West Was Won)

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:38 pm
by franktangredi
[/quote]


My first thought was Ernie K. Doe's "Mother in Law," but it doesn't reference poison. The LSWE-meister is curious...

lb13
[/quote]

Well, I'll be damned! All these decades I thought the opening line of the song was "The word is poison I know." Now I discover it's "The worst person I know."

Oops.

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:48 pm
by mellytu74
franktangredi wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:38 pm

My first thought was Ernie K. Doe's "Mother in Law," but it doesn't reference poison. The LSWE-meister is curious...

lb13
[/quote]

Well, I'll be damned! All these decades I thought the opening line of the song was "The word is poison I know." Now I discover it's "The worst person I know."

Oops.
[/quote]

:D :D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:49 pm
by mellytu74
I am taking a break - I know that some of the matches we've got may not work because they use actresses in the same way twice.

But I am stuck - I KNOW we've got some obvious that I am just missing.

And we STILL don't have the incorrect one identified or the question marks figured out.

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:54 pm
by franktangredi
mellytu74 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:49 pm
I am taking a break - I know that some of the matches we've got may not work because they use actresses in the same way twice.

But I am stuck - I KNOW we've got some obvious that I am just missing.

And we STILL don't have the incorrect one identified or the question marks figured out.
Well, I think it's only fair to tell you that the two clues involved are 39 and 89. I just rechecked my facts and they're right. (Peggy Ashcroft does have a memorial plaque in Westminster Abbey, but she is not interred there.)

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:56 pm
by mellytu74
franktangredi wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:54 pm
mellytu74 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:49 pm
I am taking a break - I know that some of the matches we've got may not work because they use actresses in the same way twice.

But I am stuck - I KNOW we've got some obvious that I am just missing.

And we STILL don't have the incorrect one identified or the question marks figured out.
Well, I think it's only fair to tell you that the two clues involved are 39 and 89. I just rechecked my facts and they're right. (Peggy Ashcroft does have a memorial plaque in Westminster Abbey, but she is not interred there.)
Thanks. I can stop tearing my hair out trying to find the Diane Cilento movie. :D

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:03 pm
by mellytu74
mellytu74 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:56 pm
franktangredi wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:54 pm
mellytu74 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:49 pm
I am taking a break - I know that some of the matches we've got may not work because they use actresses in the same way twice.

But I am stuck - I KNOW we've got some obvious that I am just missing.

And we STILL don't have the incorrect one identified or the question marks figured out.
Well, I think it's only fair to tell you that the two clues involved are 39 and 89. I just rechecked my facts and they're right. (Peggy Ashcroft does have a memorial plaque in Westminster Abbey, but she is not interred there.)
Thanks. I can stop tearing my hair out trying to find the Diane Cilento movie. :D
How about Daniel Craig for 89? Gives us Rachel Weisz, Susan Sarandon's daughter in The Lovely Bones.

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:10 pm
by mellytu74
mellytu74 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:03 pm
mellytu74 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:56 pm
franktangredi wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:54 pm


Well, I think it's only fair to tell you that the two clues involved are 39 and 89. I just rechecked my facts and they're right. (Peggy Ashcroft does have a memorial plaque in Westminster Abbey, but she is not interred there.)
Thanks. I can stop tearing my hair out trying to find the Diane Cilento movie. :D
How about Daniel Craig for 89? Gives us Rachel Weisz, Susan Sarandon's daughter in The Lovely Bones.
AND for 39, how about Sybil Thorndyke? I think that will solve Jane Wyman - IIRC Thorndyke is her mom in Stage Fright.

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:15 pm
by jarnon
Melly’s taking a breather, so now’s my chance to post an updated consolidation…

Identify the 100 actors below. (The first two clues are an exchange between two actors in the same movie; every other clue after that is a quotation.) Then, match them into 52 pairs according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. Three actors will be used twice, each time in a different capacity. One actor will be matched with herself.

**1. LAUREN BACALL
*2. WENDY HILLER
*3. DOUGLAS FAIRBANKS, JR.
*4. SUSAN SARANDON
*5. RITA HAYWORTH
6. DICK POWELL
7. KATY JURADO
*8. GLADYS COOPER
*9. MAUREEN O’SULLIVAN
*10. RIP TORN
*11. JOANNE WOODWARD
*12. BARBARA O'NEIL
*13. VIRGINIA CHERRILL
14. MADONNA
*15. SYLVIA SIDNEY
*16. TIMOTHY HUTTON
*17. ALLA NAZIMOVA
*18. MAUREEN O'HARA

19. She was the only Oscar-winning actress to direct an Oscar-winning documentary.

*20. JOHN PAYNE
*21. EMMA THOMPSON
*22. JOEL McCREA
*23. ALICE BRADY
*24. ANNE BANCROFT
25. BRIAN AHERNE
*26. TERESA WRIGHT
27. MERCEDES McCAMBRIDGE
28. WILLIAM HURT (married to Mary Beth Hurt)
*29. ELIZABETH ASHLEY
*30. ANNETTE BENING
*31. GLENN FORD
*32. KATHLEEN TURNER
33. AVA GARDNER
*34. RICHARD JOHNSON
*35. GLORIA GRAHAME
36. DIANNE WIEST
*37. BOBBY DARIN
*38. DOROTHY MCGUIRE
*39. SYBIL THORNDYKE
40. JAMIE BELL
*41. RHEA PERLMAN
42. ALI McGRAW
*43. MARION LORNE
*44. ELLEN BURSTYN
45. JOHN AGAR
*46. PHOEBE CATES
*47. SIOBHAN McKENNA
48. ANGELINA JOLIE
49. JERRY STILLER
**50. GREER GARSON
*51. RONALD REAGAN
52. RICHARD BURTON
*53. MARY ASTOR
*54. JUDITH ANDERSON
*55. KAY KENDALL
*56. JANE ALEXANDER
*57. ROBERT WAGNER
58. PAULA PRENTISS
*59. JULIE CHRISTIE
*60. JAMES BROLIN
*61. CARROLL BAKER
*62. FRANK SINATRA
*63. UNA MERKEL
*64. ANGELA LANSBURY
*65. BETTY FIELD
*66. SAM ELLIOTT
*67. EDNA MAY OLIVER
**68. BARBARA STANWYCK
69. AGNES MOOREHEAD
*70. ANNE RAMSEY
*71. ETHEL BARRYMORE
*72. SHIRLEY MacLAINE
*73. STEWART GRANGER
74. GERALDINE PAGE
*75. LANA TURNER
76. HOLLY HUNTER
*77. MARJORIE RAMBEAU
*78. CLARK GABLE
*79. SPRING BYINGTON
80. TOM CRUISE
*81. MARJORIE MAIN
*82. MILLIE PERKINS
*83. FAY BAINTER
*84. HANK AZARIA
85. IDA LUPINO
*86. ED HARRIS
*87. BARBARA RUSH
88. CLORIS LEACHMAN
*89. DANIEL CRAIG
*90. NATALIE WOOD
*91. SARAH JESSICA PARKER
*92. CLAIRE TREVOR
93. DAME MAY WHITTY
*94. MALCOLM McDOWELL
*95. SUZANNE PLESHETTE
*96. DEBBIE REYNOLDS
97. BRENDA BLETHLYN
*98. LAURENCE OLIVIER
*99. JENNIFER JONES
*100. PAUL NEWMAN

TANGREDI:
Actor played the mother of another actor’s real-life wife or husband.

MATCHES:

1. LAUREN BACALL married to Humphrey Bogart (81. MARJORIE MAIN in Dead End)
60. JAMES BROLIN married to Barbra Streisand (1. LAUREN BACALL in The Mirror Has Two Faces)
95. SUZANNE PLESHETTE married to Troy Donahue (38. DOROTHY McGUIRE in A Summer Place)
99. JENNIFER JONES married to Robert Walker (43. MARION LORNE in Strangers on a Train)
41. RHEA PERLMAN married to Danny DeVito (70. ANNE RAMSEY Throw Mamma from the Train)
16. TIMOTHY HUTTON married to Debra Winger (72. SHIRLEY MacLAINE in Terms of Endearment)
90. NATALIE WOOD married to Robert Wagner (53. MARY ASTOR in A Kiss Before Dying)
57. ROBERT WAGNER married to Natalie Wood (18. MAUREEN O'HARA in Miracle on 34th Street)
21. EMMA THOMPSON married to Kenneth Branagh (59. JULIE CHRISTIE in Hamlet)
78. CLARK GABLE married to Carole Lombard (23. ALICE BRADY in My Man Godfrey)
98. LAURENCE OLIVIER married to Vivien Leigh (12. BARBARA O'NEIL in GWTW)
13. VIRGINIA CHERRILL was married to Cary Grant (71. ETHEL BARRYMORE in None But the Lonely Heart)
5. RITA HAYWORTH married to Dick Haymes (83. FAY BAINTER in State Fair)
84. HANK AZARIA married to Helen Hunt (32. KATHLEEN TURNER in Peggy Sue Got Married)
34. RICHARD JOHNSON married to Kim Novak (65. BETTY FIELD in Picnic)
10. RIP TORN married to Geraldine Page (63. UNA MERKEL in Summer and Smoke)
100. PAUL NEWMAN married to Joanne Woodward (15. SYLVIA SIDNEY in Summer Dreams, Winter Dreams)
37. BOBBY DARIN married to Sandra Dee (75. LANA TURNER in Imitation of Life)
62. FRANK SINATRA married to Mia Farrow (9. MAUREEN O’SULLIVAN in Hannah and Her Sisters)
55. KAY KENDALL married to Rex Harrison (8. GLADYS COOPER in My Fair Lady)
22. JOEL McCREA married to Frances Dee (79. SPRING BYINGTON in Little Women)
6. DICK POWELL married to June Allyson (53. MARY ASTOR in Little Women) (duplicate)
68. BARBARA STANWYCK married to Robert Taylor (17. ALLA NAZIMOVA in Escape)
87. BARBARA RUSH married to Jeffrey Hunter (47. SIOBHAN McKENNA in King of Kings)
3. DOUGLAS FAIRBANKS, JR. married to Joan Crawford (77. MARJORIE RAMBEAU in Torch Song)
86. ED HARRIS married to Amy Madigan (44. ELLEN BURSTYN in Twice in a Lifetime)
11. JOANNE WOODWARD married to Paul Newman (54. JUDITH ANDERSON in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof)
46. PHOEBE CATES married to Kevin Kline (96. DEBBIE REYNOLDS in In and Out)
66. SAM ELLIOTT married to Katherine Ross (24. ANNE BANCROFT in The Graduate)
57. ROBERT WAGNER married to Natalie Wood (92. CLAIRE TREVOR in Marjorie Morningstar) (duplicate)
33. AVA GARDNER married to Mickey Rooney (79. SPRING BYINGTON in Ah Wilderness) (duplicate)
31. GLENN FORD married to Eleanor Powell (67. EDNA MAY OLIVER in Rosalie)
5. RITA HAYWORTH married to Orson Welles (69. AGNES MOOREHEAD in Citizen Kane) (duplicate)
50. GREER GARSON married to Richard Ney (50. GREER GARSON in Mrs. Miniver)
80. TOM CRUISE married to Nicole Kidman (72. SHIRLEY MacLAINE in Bewitched) (duplicate)
94. MALCOLM McDOWELL married to Mary Steenburgen (35. GLORIA GRAHAME in Melvin and Howard)
91. SARAH JESSICA PARKER married to Matthew Broderick (56. JANE ALEXANDER in Glory)
30. ANNETTE BENING married to Warren Beatty (64. ANGELA LANSBURY in All Fall Down)
82. MILLIE PERKINS married to Dean Stockwell (2. WENDY HILLER in Sons and Lovers)
20. JOHN PAYNE married to Anne Shirley (68. BARBARA STANWYCK in Stella Dallas)
73. STEWART GRANGER married to Jean Simmons (26. TERESA WRIGHT in The Actress)
29. ELIZABETH ASHLEY married to George Peppard (61. CARROLL BAKER in How the West Was Won)
89. DANIEL CRAIG married to Rachel Weisz (4. SUSAN SARANDON in The Lovely Bones)
51. RONALD REAGAN married to Jane Wyman (39. SYBIL THORNDYKE in Stage Fright)

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:41 pm
by jarnon
49. JERRY STILLER married to Anne Meara (88. CLORIS LEACHMAN in Lovers and Other Strangers)

52. RICHARD BURTON married to Elizabeth Taylor (27. MERCEDES McCAMBRIDGE in Suddenly Last Summer)

Re: Game #196: Box Office Poison

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:53 pm
by silverscreenselect
mellytu74 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:03 pm

57. ROBERT WAGNER married to Natalie Wood, (92. CLAIRE TREVOR in Marjorie Morning star)
Frank said that the actors who were used twice were in different capacities, and I already matched Natalie with Maureen O'Hara in Miracle on 34th Street, which seems a more famous mother/daughter movie. This could be an accidental double.