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The largest fentanyl seizure in Border Patrol history

#1 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:22 pm

PHOENIX (AP) - U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials in Nogales say they've made their biggest fentanyl bust ever.

The agency says it will provide details Thursday during a late morning news conference at the Mariposa border crossing in Nogales, Arizona.
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#2 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:41 pm

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#3 Post by Estonut » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:19 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
PHOENIX (AP) - U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials in Nogales say they've made their biggest fentanyl bust ever.

The agency says it will provide details Thursday during a late morning news conference at the Mariposa border crossing in Nogales, Arizona.
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It's so unlike you to draw conclusions without having any details...
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#4 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:50 am

Estonut wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:
PHOENIX (AP) - U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials in Nogales say they've made their biggest fentanyl bust ever.

The agency says it will provide details Thursday during a late morning news conference at the Mariposa border crossing in Nogales, Arizona.
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It's so unlike you to draw conclusions without having any details...
I have details. It was seized at the port of entry.
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#5 Post by BackInTex » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:04 am

Bob Juch wrote:
Estonut wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:A wall wouldn't have made any difference.
It's so unlike you to draw conclusions without having any details...
I have details. It was seized at the port of entry.
The details you don't have relate to all the fentanyl they didn't seize. The fentanyl that didn't come through a port of entry.
In the end, they will all pretty much taste the same.

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#6 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:23 am

BackInTex wrote: The details you don't have relate to all the fentanyl they didn't seize. The fentanyl that didn't come through a port of entry.
It's being brought in by those same terrorists who keep dropping those prayer towels at the border because their arms are too full of illegal drugs to hold everything.
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#7 Post by BackInTex » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:31 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote: The details you don't have relate to all the fentanyl they didn't seize. The fentanyl that didn't come through a port of entry.
It's being brought in by those same terrorists who keep dropping those prayer towels at the border because their arms are too full of illegal drugs to hold everything.
True, but I know you don't mean it to be.

Are you denying that ranchers on or near the border are finding such things? Are you just don't care?
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#8 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:58 am

BackInTex wrote: Are you denying that ranchers on or near the border are finding such things? Are you just don't care?
No, what I'm saying is that they are finding discarded bits and pieces of clothing the same as you could probably find anywhere in the southwestern desert that people are claiming to be prayer towels.
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#9 Post by BackInTex » Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:05 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote: Are you denying that ranchers on or near the border are finding such things? Are you just don't care?
No, what I'm saying is that they are finding discarded bits and pieces of clothing the same as you could probably find anywhere in the southwestern desert that people are claiming to be prayer towels.
What you are saying is "Yes, I'm denying that ranchers on or near the border are finding such things."

If they say they are finding prayer towels and you are saying they are not, you are denying they are finding such things. Is that really that hard to understand? Just say it. Are you embarrassed to admit what you think?
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#10 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:30 am

BackInTex wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote: Are you denying that ranchers on or near the border are finding such things? Are you just don't care?
No, what I'm saying is that they are finding discarded bits and pieces of clothing the same as you could probably find anywhere in the southwestern desert that people are claiming to be prayer towels.
What you are saying is "Yes, I'm denying that ranchers on or near the border are finding such things."

If they say they are finding prayer towels and you are saying they are not, you are denying they are finding such things. Is that really that hard to understand? Just say it. Are you embarrassed to admit what you think?
I'm not denying they are finding things. I am denying that what they are finding are prayer towels instead of discarded sweaters, towels, blankets and other clothing items you will find all over the desert. You appear to be implying that I am claiming that the ranchers are making these stories up. What I'm saying is that someone is misidentifying the clothing items they have found. Where is the documented evidence of a prayer towel? Does it have a label saying "Made in Mecca" on it? Does it really make sense that someone who is religious enough to lug a prayer towel hundreds of miles through the desert then thinks so little of it that he or she discards it the minute they get over the border?
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#11 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:51 am

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#12 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:12 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote: The details you don't have relate to all the fentanyl they didn't seize. The fentanyl that didn't come through a port of entry.
It's being brought in by those same terrorists who keep dropping those prayer towels at the border because their arms are too full of illegal drugs to hold everything.
Rugs, not towels.
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#13 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:38 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote: The details you don't have relate to all the fentanyl they didn't seize. The fentanyl that didn't come through a port of entry.
It's being brought in by those same terrorists who keep dropping those prayer towels at the border because their arms are too full of illegal drugs to hold everything.
Rugs, not towels.
Recent articles refer to "towels." Politifact investigated this claim in 2014 after a Breitbart article and found it "rugs on fire." I haven't seen any more recent alleged documentation.

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#14 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:11 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
It's being brought in by those same terrorists who keep dropping those prayer towels at the border because their arms are too full of illegal drugs to hold everything.
Rugs, not towels.
Recent articles refer to "towels." Politifact investigated this claim in 2014 after a Breitbart article and found it "rugs on fire." I haven't seen any more recent alleged documentation.

https://www.politifact.com/texas/statem ... as-brush-/
No. Recent interview references rugs, not towels. Nothing towelly since awhile back. You should update your source.
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#15 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:41 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
Rugs, not towels.
Recent articles refer to "towels." Politifact investigated this claim in 2014 after a Breitbart article and found it "rugs on fire." I haven't seen any more recent alleged documentation.

https://www.politifact.com/texas/statem ... as-brush-/
No. Recent interview references rugs, not towels. Nothing towelly since awhile back. You should update your source.
Well, I have seen them referred to as prayer towels. But, Trump is calling them prayer rugs, without any substantiation, so I'll go along with non-existent prayer rugs as opposed to non-existent prayer towels.

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#16 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:20 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
Recent articles refer to "towels." Politifact investigated this claim in 2014 after a Breitbart article and found it "rugs on fire." I haven't seen any more recent alleged documentation.

https://www.politifact.com/texas/statem ... as-brush-/
No. Recent interview references rugs, not towels. Nothing towelly since awhile back. You should update your source.
Well, I have seen them referred to as prayer towels. But, Trump is calling them prayer rugs, without any substantiation, so I'll go along with non-existent prayer rugs as opposed to non-existent prayer towels.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technolo ... 5cee81c82b
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#17 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:57 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
Recent articles refer to "towels." Politifact investigated this claim in 2014 after a Breitbart article and found it "rugs on fire." I haven't seen any more recent alleged documentation.

https://www.politifact.com/texas/statem ... as-brush-/
No. Recent interview references rugs, not towels. Nothing towelly since awhile back. You should update your source.
Well, I have seen them referred to as prayer towels. But, Trump is calling them prayer rugs, without any substantiation, so I'll go along with non-existent prayer rugs as opposed to non-existent prayer towels.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technolo ... 5cee81c82b
Try googling prayer towels. That article references rugs too. Regardless of veracity of claims, where are you getting TOWELS?
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#18 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:29 pm

So Bob is Jim Acosta now?
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The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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