Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:51 am
AP agrees w/ Axios
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Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:58 am
Bloomberg news confirms
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:20 am
Word is now that he's been summoned to the White House to be fired and won't resign.ghostjmf wrote:Bloomberg news confirms
It's more than a matter of semantics. If Rosenstein resigns, Trump can replace him under the Federal Vacancies Act without going through the Senate approval process which will undoubtedly be extremely contentious. If he is fired, it's not nearly as clear (translation: immediate lawsuit). It's also unclear how Mueller will react to the firing. He could well have a bunch of indictments sitting in his pocket ready to unseal.
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:46 am
He could also have fuzzy candies half-unwrapped in there.silverscreenselect wrote:Word is now that he's been summoned to the White House to be fired and won't resign.ghostjmf wrote:Bloomberg news confirms
It's more than a matter of semantics. If Rosenstein resigns, Trump can replace him under the Federal Vacancies Act without going through the Senate approval process which will undoubtedly be extremely contentious. If he is fired, it's not nearly as clear (translation: immediate lawsuit). It's also unclear how Mueller will react to the firing. He could well have a bunch of indictments sitting in his pocket ready to unseal.
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:48 am
Or maybe it's just a cigar.silverscreenselect wrote:Word is now that he's been summoned to the White House to be fired and won't resign.ghostjmf wrote:Bloomberg news confirms
It's more than a matter of semantics. If Rosenstein resigns, Trump can replace him under the Federal Vacancies Act without going through the Senate approval process which will undoubtedly be extremely contentious. If he is fired, it's not nearly as clear (translation: immediate lawsuit). It's also unclear how Mueller will react to the firing. He could well have a bunch of indictments sitting in his pocket ready to unseal.
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:20 pm
You all got played by the White House.
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:46 pm
No. YOU all got played.Bob Juch wrote:You all got played by the White House.
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:36 pm
I did not.Beebs52 wrote:No. YOU all got played.Bob Juch wrote:You all got played by the White House.
I find it suspicious that Rosenstein is going to the White House the same day as Dr. Blasey Ford is appearing before the Senate Judicial Committee. Could it be that they're trying to distract the public?
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:51 pm
Now that's funny I don't care who yar. Must see tv will trump Rod.Bob Juch wrote:I did not.Beebs52 wrote:No. YOU all got played.Bob Juch wrote:You all got played by the White House.
I find it suspicious that Rosenstein is going to the White House the same day as Dr. Blasey Ford is appearing before the Senate Judicial Committee. Could it be that they're trying to distract the public?
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:43 pm
I am experiencing DEJA VU!
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Why does anyone believe any news pertaining to politics from ANY source nowadays?
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Why does anyone believe any news pertaining to politics from ANY source nowadays?
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:25 pm
At the UN, Trump said he talked to Rosenstein by phone today, they'll meet Thursday, and he wants transparency. Trump's used that word in the context of releasing documents about Comey, Strzok, Ohr, etc. Rosenstein should remind him why there's a process for deciding what documents can be made public, and how the Inspector General (whom Trump praised for his report on the Clinton case) is digging into those issues. While he's at it, Rosenstein should assure Trump that he's not one of the turncoats mentioned in Woodward's book or the Times op-ed, and he's very loyal.
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:22 pm
Especially if it comes from the White House.flockofseagulls104 wrote:I am experiencing DEJA VU!
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=55615&hilit=Rosenstein
Why does anyone believe any news pertaining to politics from ANY source nowadays?
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:42 pm
They want it SOooooooo much. They want a watergate so much they can taste it, and are doing their best to manufacture it.jarnon wrote:At the UN, Trump said he talked to Rosenstein by phone today, they'll meet Thursday, and he wants transparency. Trump's used that word in the context of releasing documents about Comey, Strzok, Ohr, etc. Rosenstein should remind him why there's a process for deciding what documents can be made public, and how the Inspector General (whom Trump praised for his report on the Clinton case) is digging into those issues. While he's at it, Rosenstein should assure Trump that he's not one of the turncoats mentioned in Woodward's book or the Times op-ed, and he's very loyal.
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:58 am
I think the assistant AG should be named Schrodinger - he's fired or he's not fired, he's resigned or he hasn't resigned. Only when we open the box will we know. 
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:21 am
There's no need to manufacture something that's going to become very apparent soon enough.flockofseagulls104 wrote: They want it SOooooooo much. They want a watergate so much they can taste it, and are doing their best to manufacture it.
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:38 pm
The meeting with Trump was delayed by the Kavanaugh mess. They flew to Florida together on Monday, and Trump's satisfied (for now) that Rosenstein isn't a deep state instigator.
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:44 pm
Damn, the MSM got it wrong again. What, has it been the five times they have reported that it was imminent that Rosenstein was going to be fired, from 'unnamed sources familiar with the situation'?
Methinks their 'unnamed sources familiar with the situation' are themselves. But no fake news here, folks.
Methinks their 'unnamed sources familiar with the situation' are themselves. But no fake news here, folks.
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:21 am
Flock, your lack of understanding of how modern news reporting works matches your lack of understanding of many things.flockofseagulls104 wrote:Methinks their 'unnamed sources familiar with the situation' are themselves. But no fake news here, folks.
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:24 am
Must be. I'm an old guy. I grew up watching Walter Cronkite, who was practically a Communist, but you wouldn't know it from his reporting. He reported the facts and let the viewer decide. Reporting rumors gossiped by some person who says they know something to a reporter is really not news to me.silverscreenselect wrote:Flock, your lack of understanding of how modern news reporting works matches your lack of understanding of many things.flockofseagulls104 wrote:Methinks their 'unnamed sources familiar with the situation' are themselves. But no fake news here, folks.
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:19 am
Deep Throat (Mark Felt) said he knew something and told it to Bob Woodward and that turned out fairly well. Back then, of course, the only real sources for news were the three networks, and a handful of papers like the Washington Post and the New York Times. That meant that Cronkite and Woodward had the luxury of doing a lot more verification and corroboration of their sources before they had to publish. And even then, the Post made some mistakes in their reports that were mentioned in the book All the President's Men.flockofseagulls104 wrote: Reporting rumors gossiped by some person who says they know something to a reporter is really not news to me.
Things are different now, with a huge rush to publish electronically and the ability of anyone with a cell phone to become an instant reporter by means of an uploaded tweet or YouTube video. There are more mistakes made, although the ratio of valid stories to mistaken ones is still very high for the mainstream media. (Every time you've linked to an article listing dozens of "fake news" stories, most of them turn out to be hastily put together field reports from lesser known news organizations, which obviously will have the highest rate of errors.)
Many of the leaked stories about the Trump administration come from people on the inside who are trying to get his attention, and, in some cases, the White House floats trial balloons to see what sort of reception they get before sometimes pulling back (this may be the case with Rosenstein).
Does this mean you should look at articles critically? Yes. Does this mean that you should reject them out of hand as "fake news" simply because they say something you don't like? No. And I would also note that you seem to have no trouble picking up and accepting as fact "news" that originates from right wing sources that have nowhere near the record of reliability and integrity as the mainstream news outlets do. And, to get back to a very familiar analogy, the concept of fake news was a very familiar theme in Nazi propaganda. Hitler called it "Lugenpresse" (lying press), a term heard at some Trump rallies before the 2016 election, all the while the Nazis promoted their own propaganda through their own "news" outlets.
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:28 pm
Jake Tapper wrote:Spotted at the WH Hanukkah party in the East Room this evening: Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the professional embodiment of one day’s worth of oil that has surprisingly lasted eight days. Happy Hanukkah
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:41 am
Has Rosenstein resigned yet? Did I miss it? Is Axios correct? What about AP and Bloomberg?ghostjmf wrote:AP agrees w/ Axios
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Bloomberg news confirms
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CNN main story today is that Kelly is resigning. More deja vu. How many times in the past year have they reported that he is going to, or has asked to step down? Why don't they wait until it actually happens? Why does anyone put any credence to what these idiots report?
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:21 pm
Now it actually happened. Pres. Trump announced today that Gen. Kelly is leaving at the end of the year.flockofseagulls104 wrote:CNN main story today is that Kelly is resigning. More deja vu. How many times in the past year have they reported that he is going to, or has asked to step down? Why don't they wait until it actually happens?
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:22 pm
Sometimes I misread when just glancing.jarnon wrote:Now it actually happened. Pres. Trump announced today that Gen. Kelly is leaving at the end of the year.flockofseagulls104 wrote:CNN main story today is that Kelly is resigning. More deja vu. How many times in the past year have they reported that he is going to, or has asked to step down? Why don't they wait until it actually happens?
I first read this as "Gen. Kelly is leaving at the end of the war."
Re: Rosenstein resigning per Axios
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:17 pm
Ayers won’t be his replacement. Reports state he was unwilling to commit to remain in the job for longer than 3 months. —Bobjarnon wrote:Now it actually happened. Pres. Trump announced today that Gen. Kelly is leaving at the end of the year.flockofseagulls104 wrote:CNN main story today is that Kelly is resigning. More deja vu. How many times in the past year have they reported that he is going to, or has asked to step down? Why don't they wait until it actually happens?