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TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:41 am
by Bob Juch
The TSA bag screeners at JFK missed seeing three "box cutters" in a passenger's bag. When he put his bag in the overhead compartment of a JetBlue flight they fell out. That caused them to removed all passengers from the plane and rescreen them.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/quee ... MP=OTC-rss

I call those "utility knives", not "box cutters".

Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:37 pm
by andrewjackson
Bob Juch wrote:The TSA bag screeners at JFK missed seeing three "box cutters" in a passenger's bag. When he put his bag in the overhead compartment of a JetBlue flight they fell out. That caused them to removed all passengers from the plane and rescreen them.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/quee ... MP=OTC-rss

I call those "utility knives", not "box cutters".
I don't see pictures of what this person had. The picture in the article that you linked shows the tools used in the 9/11 hijackings.

I would calls those a leatherman on the left (yes, a brand name but I use it generically) and a stanley (also generic) or utilty knife on the right.

I know a lot of people that use "boxcutter" for stanley knives and this kind of knife, which is what I would reserve "boxcutter" for:

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It is not clear to me which kind was found on this plane.

Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:42 pm
by ulysses5019
I wonder if lb has a collection of these for work?

Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:48 pm
by littlebeast13
ulysses5019 wrote:I wonder if lb has a collection of these for work?

I have a bunch of old Mecca box cutters, including one sitting on the desk here, which is my spare for when the button finally pops on my current one....

They only have a passing resemblance to what aj posted, but that's because ours are technically called safety cutters..... not that that's kept me from whacking my fingers and other body parts numerous times....

lb13

Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:51 pm
by Estonut
There's something fishy about the guy's story. OK, he uses boxcutters at work. He "forgot" they were in his carry-on. If he used them at work, why would they be in his carry-on in the first place? I suppose he was going to work in the Dominican Republic?

Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:55 pm
by Bob Juch
Estonut wrote:There's something fishy about the guy's story. OK, he uses boxcutters at work. He "forgot" they were in his carry-on. If he used them at work, why would they be in his carry-on in the first place? I suppose he was going to work in the Dominican Republic?
I suppose he didn't want to chance the airline losing his tool bag.

Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:07 pm
by Estonut
Bob Juch wrote:
Estonut wrote:There's something fishy about the guy's story. OK, he uses boxcutters at work. He "forgot" they were in his carry-on. If he used them at work, why would they be in his carry-on in the first place? I suppose he was going to work in the Dominican Republic?
I suppose he didn't want to chance the airline losing his tool bag.
I don't think it was a tool bag. If so, why bring it along? How would the cutters get through amongst other tools? Are things like screwdrivers, hammers or cutting pliers allowed in carry-on?

Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:20 pm
by themanintheseersuckersuit
In a post 9/11 world, brandishing a box cutter on a airliner would be a good way to get yourself beaten to a pulp.

Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:24 pm
by littlebeast13
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:In a post 9/11 world, brandishing a box cutter on a airliner would be a good way to get yourself beaten to a pulp.

Someone with many years of Mecca experience would never allow that to happen to themselves.

I'd hope all the onrushers have had their tetanus boosters....

lb13

Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:41 pm
by christie1111
Estonut wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:
Estonut wrote: How would the cutters get through amongst other tools? Are things like screwdrivers, hammers or cutting pliers allowed in carry-on?
The only answer I can think of to answer that is the mass of metal (thickness in this case). They are relatively thin blades. But they should have been picked up. I would think that even single edged razor blades should be picked up on metal detectors at this point.

Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:07 pm
by andrewjackson
I travel with tools when I'm going to soccer games. I use them to make flags and to hang/cut down banners. I usually have a cordless drill and a couple of different kinds of cutters. I also haul that stuff back forth to home games using some of the same bags. I sort it out and put the tools into a checked bag when I fly but I have made a couple of mistakes before. I lost a pair of sidecutters at the Denver airport security station once because they got left in the wrong bag. Security found them in the scanner and then dug them out of a pocket in my backpack. Just pitched them in the trash since I had already checked my other bag.

Sidecutters:

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Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:13 pm
by Estonut
I doubt it was a tool bag. Most professional-type tools would have to be checked:

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/ ... items.shtm
TSA guidelines wrote:

Code: Select all

Tools:

Item                                                                Carry-on   Checked
Axes and Hatchets                                                   No         Yes
Cattle Prods                                                        No         Yes
Crowbars                                                            No         Yes
Hammers                                                             No         Yes
Drills and drill bits (including cordless portable power drills)    No         Yes
Saws (including cordless portable power saws)                       No         Yes
Tools (greater than seven inches in length)                         No         Yes
Tools (seven inches or less in length)                              Yes        Yes
Screwdrivers (seven inches or less in length)                       Yes        Yes
Wrenches and Pliers (seven inches or less in length)                Yes        Yes

NOTE: Any sharp objects in checked baggage should be sheathed or securely wrapped to prevent injury to baggage handlers and Security Officers.

Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:29 pm
by MarleysGh0st
littlebeast13 wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:In a post 9/11 world, brandishing a box cutter on a airliner would be a good way to get yourself beaten to a pulp.

Someone with many years of Mecca experience would never allow that to happen to themselves.

I'd hope all the onrushers have had their tetanus boosters....

lb13
Okay, the discussion doesn't directly mention a box cutter death match, but I think this is the closest we've got on the Bored for today's "Found It."

Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:33 pm
by littlebeast13
MarleysGh0st wrote:
littlebeast13 wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:In a post 9/11 world, brandishing a box cutter on a airliner would be a good way to get yourself beaten to a pulp.

Someone with many years of Mecca experience would never allow that to happen to themselves.

I'd hope all the onrushers have had their tetanus boosters....

lb13
Okay, the discussion doesn't directly mention a box cutter death match, but I think this is the closest we've got on the Bored for today's "Found It."

I drew the death match after I posted that. There technically was no Found It for this one, but this was the inspiring thread.....

lb13

Re: TSA screeners miss bag with 3 "box cutters"

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:03 pm
by ulysses5019
littlebeast13 wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:
littlebeast13 wrote:

Someone with many years of Mecca experience would never allow that to happen to themselves.

I'd hope all the onrushers have had their tetanus boosters....

lb13
Okay, the discussion doesn't directly mention a box cutter death match, but I think this is the closest we've got on the Bored for today's "Found It."

I drew the death match after I posted that. There technically was no Found It for this one, but this was the inspiring thread.....

lb13
I just want to know why the two are smiling in the avatar.