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silverscreenselect wrote:

flockofseagulls104 wrote:

he wants impeachment proceedings which will establish Trump's guilt

Now there you go. At least you can admit it.

What is so astonishing about the fact that Mueller conducted a thorough investigation and concluded that Trump obstructed justice? That's not a case of Mueller or the Democrats being out to get him, any more than if they investigated a mob boss and concluded that he was guilty of various crime.

The only difference is that under the Constitution, the only vehicle that Mueller thinks the people possess to remove a corrupt president is the impeachment process. You seem to be under the deluded assumption that this is some sort of palace coup perpetrated by Mueller and the Democrats to overturn the election. If you reviewed the Mueller Report instead of fixating on the Bill Barr three-page whitewash "synopsis," it lays out page after page of acts that Trump committed, as revealed by eyewitnesses under oath (which is not hearsay), that constituted obstruction of justice.

But you prefer being handed pre-digested bits and pieces of information spoon fed to you by the right wing press. You may not read or listen to Hannity, but you are clearly getting your thought processes and opinions handed to you by some similar right wing "news" organization.

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
As I've said before, you could really do with a big dose of introspection.

silverscreenselect wrote:

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
As I've said before, you could really do with a big dose of introspection.

And you could really do with a big dose of reality.

flockofseagulls104 wrote: I evaluate and avoid propaganda from any side. I make up my own mind.

but compared to corrupt, self-righteous idiots like Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, Waters, et al, he is.

silverscreenselect wrote:

flockofseagulls104 wrote: I evaluate and avoid propaganda from any side. I make up my own mind.

but compared to corrupt, self-righteous idiots like Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, Waters, et al, he is.

I think these two statements sum up your mindset very well.

It's so much easier when you don't have to think for yourself Flock and your handlers give you the illusion you are doing so before you come down and agree with their way of thinking every single time. Whenever I do a bit of background on one of your diatribes, it inevitably tracks some right wing meme making the rounds, if not word for word, then point for point.

I'm not sure what issues you disagree with Trump with, since every time you talk on this Bored, you seem to support and believe in his honesty and character despite the literally thousands of lies he's been found to have said in public during his term of office.

I have given Trump credit for a few things, but they are few and far between because the man does little right other than his ability to continue to lead you and some 30% of the rest of the public around by the nose. The rest of the country is waking up to his antics, unless you happened to miss the 40+ new Democrats who came into office last November in the House (including my own Congresswoman Lucy McBath).

flockofseagulls104 wrote: As expected.

silverscreenselect wrote:

flockofseagulls104 wrote: As expected.

You can expect to hear the truth when you listen to Bob, me, or most of the real media, as opposed to the rightwing bloviating that gives you so much comfort.

silverscreenselect wrote:

flockofseagulls104 wrote: As expected.

You can expect to hear the truth when you listen to Bob, me, or most of the real media, as opposed to the rightwing bloviating that gives you so much comfort.

Pursuant to subpoenas issued by the House Judiciary and House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence tonight, Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III has agreed to testify before both Committees on July 17 in open session.

Americans have demanded to hear directly from the Special Counsel so they can understand what he and his team examined, uncovered, and determined about Russia’s attack on our democracy, the Trump campaign’s acceptance and use of that help, and President Trump and his associates' obstruction of the investigation into that attack.

We look forward to hearing his testimony, as do all Americans.

jarnon wrote:My Congresswoman just announced this. She's been pushing for it for weeks.

Pursuant to subpoenas issued by the House Judiciary and House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence tonight, Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III has agreed to testify before both Committees on July 17 in open session.

Americans have demanded to hear directly from the Special Counsel so they can understand what he and his team examined, uncovered, and determined about Russia’s attack on our democracy, the Trump campaign’s acceptance and use of that help, and President Trump and his associates' obstruction of the investigation into that attack.

We look forward to hearing his testimony, as do all Americans.

Even if he just paraphrases what's in his report, as he threatened, it's going to grab headlines and keep the controversy alive.

Liberals wrote:If. We. Can. Just. Keep. The. Charade. Up. Four. Hundred. Ninety. Six. More. Days.

Conservatives wrote:LOL

BackInTex wrote:

jarnon wrote:My Congresswoman just announced this. She's been pushing for it for weeks.

Pursuant to subpoenas issued by the House Judiciary and House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence tonight, Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III has agreed to testify before both Committees on July 17 in open session.

Americans have demanded to hear directly from the Special Counsel so they can understand what he and his team examined, uncovered, and determined about Russia’s attack on our democracy, the Trump campaign’s acceptance and use of that help, and President Trump and his associates' obstruction of the investigation into that attack.

We look forward to hearing his testimony, as do all Americans.

Even if he just paraphrases what's in his report, as he threatened, it's going to grab headlines and keep the controversy alive.

Liberals wrote:If. We. Can. Just. Keep. The. Charade. Up. Four. Hundred. Ninety. Six. More. Days.

Conservatives wrote:LOL

Bob78164 wrote:

BackInTex wrote:

jarnon wrote:My Congresswoman just announced this. She's been pushing for it for weeks.

Even if he just paraphrases what's in his report, as he threatened, it's going to grab headlines and keep the controversy alive.

Liberals wrote:If. We. Can. Just. Keep. The. Charade. Up. Four. Hundred. Ninety. Six. More. Days.

Conservatives wrote:LOL

The same people who were apoplectic because Bill Clinton (who had no power at all) had a conversation with Loretta Lynch (who wasn't running the investigation) about their grandchildren (which had nothing to do with the investigation) are just fine with Donny actually firing the first guy who was in charge of investigating him, after trying and failing to get him to pledge personal loyalty, and then trying to fire the next guy who was in charge of investigating him.

At our age you really should be more careful. You could strain yourself flip-flopping that much. --Bob

Bob78164 wrote:The same people who were apoplectic because Bill Clinton (who had no power at all) had a conversation with Loretta Lynch (who wasn't running the investigation) about their grandchildren (which had nothing to do with the investigation) ...

tlynn78 wrote:

Bob78164 wrote:

BackInTex wrote:

The same people who were apoplectic because Bill Clinton (who had no power at all) had a conversation with Loretta Lynch (who wasn't running the investigation) about their grandchildren (which had nothing to do with the investigation) are just fine with Donny actually firing the first guy who was in charge of investigating him, after trying and failing to get him to pledge personal loyalty, and then trying to fire the next guy who was in charge of investigating him.

At our age you really should be more careful. You could strain yourself flip-flopping that much. --Bob

LOL - well, damn, Bob, who knew you were there?! You could have saved a lot of people a lot of wondering if you'd only shared your vast wealth of knowledge about their meeting. I mean, anyone who actually thinks the husband of the purported shoe-in for the President had any illicit messages from wifey for the boss of wifey's "investigators" would have had all their cares alleviated if they'd only known what you 'know.'

Estonut wrote:

Bob78164 wrote:The same people who were apoplectic because Bill Clinton (who had no power at all) had a conversation with Loretta Lynch (who wasn't running the investigation) about their grandchildren (which had nothing to do with the investigation) ...

Why would they clear the plane if they were having an innocent conversation about their grandchildren? This was a big, fat Clinton lie, just as was Hillary's private server "for her convenience!"

Bob78164 wrote:And yet you're okay with Donny actually firing the first guy who was investigating him and trying to fire the second. --Bob

Bob78164 wrote:

tlynn78 wrote:

Bob78164 wrote:The same people who were apoplectic because Bill Clinton (who had no power at all) had a conversation with Loretta Lynch (who wasn't running the investigation) about their grandchildren (which had nothing to do with the investigation) are just fine with Donny actually firing the first guy who was in charge of investigating him, after trying and failing to get him to pledge personal loyalty, and then trying to fire the next guy who was in charge of investigating him.

At our age you really should be more careful. You could strain yourself flip-flopping that much. --Bob

LOL - well, damn, Bob, who knew you were there?! You could have saved a lot of people a lot of wondering if you'd only shared your vast wealth of knowledge about their meeting. I mean, anyone who actually thinks the husband of the purported shoe-in for the President had any illicit messages from wifey for the boss of wifey's "investigators" would have had all their cares alleviated if they'd only known what you 'know.'

And yet you're okay with Donny actually firing the first guy who was investigating him and trying to fire the second. --Bob

BackInTex wrote:

Bob78164 wrote:And yet you're okay with Donny actually firing the first guy who was investigating him and trying to fire the second. --Bob

I'm OK with President Trump firing the FBI Director on the recommendation of the sitting Deputy Attorney General, especially given the reasoning included in the DAG's letter making the recommendation.

Bob78164 wrote: You know, and I know, and every sentient being on the face of the planet knows that the only reason Donny fired Director Comey is that Comey was investigating the campaign and wouldn't pledge personal loyalty. The exact same reason he pressured Sessions to reverse his recusal and the exact same reason he tried to fire Mueller.

BackInTex wrote:

Bob78164 wrote: You know, and I know, and every sentient being on the face of the planet knows that the only reason Donny fired Director Comey is that Comey was investigating the campaign and wouldn't pledge personal loyalty. The exact same reason he pressured Sessions to reverse his recusal and the exact same reason he tried to fire Mueller.

I do not know that. You do not know that. You BELIEVE that, just as you "believe" Trump was seriously asking Russia to help find the Clinton emails.

Bob78164 wrote: I BELIEVE Mueller when he reports that Russia started looking for the e-mails hours after Donny asked them to. --Bob

BackInTex wrote:

Bob78164 wrote: I BELIEVE Mueller when he reports that Russia started looking for the e-mails hours after Donny asked them to. --Bob

Good. I believe that to. No reason to not believe it. But, the Russians previously looked at the DNC and other places.

Do you believe Mueller when he reports there is no evidence of cooperation within the Trump campaign? Is Mueller smarter than you? Forget that, we know that answer. Mueller investigated TWO YEARS and concluded no collusion. So like all intellectually honest people, he understands that the Trump line was a joke, in jest, and that the timing was coincidental.

Bob Juch wrote:

BackInTex wrote:

Bob78164 wrote: I BELIEVE Mueller when he reports that Russia started looking for the e-mails hours after Donny asked them to. --Bob

Good. I believe that to. No reason to not believe it. But, the Russians previously looked at the DNC and other places.

Do you believe Mueller when he reports there is no evidence of cooperation within the Trump campaign? Is Mueller smarter than you? Forget that, we know that answer. Mueller investigated TWO YEARS and concluded no collusion. So like all intellectually honest people, he understands that the Trump line was a joke, in jest, and that the timing was coincidental.

No, he didn't find any collusion because that was outside the scope of his investigation.

BackInTex wrote:

Bob78164 wrote: I BELIEVE Mueller when he reports that Russia started looking for the e-mails hours after Donny asked them to. --Bob

Good. I believe that to. No reason to not believe it. But, the Russians previously looked at the DNC and other places.

Do you believe Mueller when he reports there is no evidence of cooperation within the Trump campaign? Is Mueller smarter than you? Forget that, we know that answer. Mueller investigated TWO YEARS and concluded no collusion. So like all intellectually honest people, he understands that the Trump line was a joke, in jest, and that the timing was coincidental.